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  • Crono - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    Excellent, beats having several different apps showing me the same info. Reply
  • mayankleoboy1 - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    Does the "Exynos Octa 5410" CPU-z screenshot means you are testing/reviewing the international SGS4 ? Reply
  • kascollet - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    Same question !! Reply
  • kascollet - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    2 cores @ 250Mhz and 2 @ 600Mhz... core migration actually working on big.LITTLE ??? Reply
  • Brian Klug - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    Yes I have the Korean (SHV-E300S) version.

  • Pityme11 - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    2 Reviews less than 1 page in 2 weeks. Wow, you sure are putting in the extra hours. Reply
  • brshoemak - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    The troll bridge is that-a-way ----->

    However, I don't think there are any public hotspots that will reach under there. I don't know if Comcast service extends that far but it's worth a call - they're Comcastic afterall.

    @Brian - Thanks for the info. I wouldn't have known it existed otherwise.
  • xinthius - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    I don't recall you posting any reviews?

    Thanks for the post Brian, it's interesting to see the core load and variable frequencies in realtime on my One X.
  • MadMan007 - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    What does someone in the general public posting reviews have to do with anything? He isn't a full-time professional hardware reviewer. Reply
  • Impulses - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    Neither is most of the AT staff AFAIK, and they still do a far better job than most major sites and publications... Reply
  • JustCommonSense - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    I don't think it's a review. Reply
  • enezneb - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    why is it that the clock frequencies in the screenshot aren't the same across all 4 cores when Exynos 5410 doesn't do asynchronous SMP? Reply
  • kascollet - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    2 A7 cores + 2 A15 at the same time maybe ?
    That would mean core migration is effective (and not only cluster migration).
  • Brian Klug - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    It's just a sampling bug since they're polling rather slowly in the app. If you use other means you'll see they're all the same clocks.

  • vshade - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    On my nexus4 it shows a line on the SOC tab that says model, there it is written QCT APQ8064 MAKO, maybe they got your wish Reply
  • sleepeeg3 - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    Is there a game or utility that actually benefits from a faster processor on a phone? I still don't understand the need to have the fastest processor on a phone.

    From overclocking for over a decade, more cores and MHz = faster power drain. The only time you see power saving improvements is when they change processors or decrease the cores/MHz. People whining about not having the latest octacore processor boggles my mind - idle cores drain power and making good use of extra cores through multithreading is heavily restricted in the number of applications.
  • sleepeeg3 - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    *change the design process Reply
  • Sagath - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    This is my line of thought as well. Although multiple cores is fine due to power gating technology, I think it is safe to say that the majority of smartphone users want a snappy experience (be it games, apps, or just OS) and battery life that doesnt suck.

    Why everyone gets all horney over number of cores and type is beyond me.
  • theduckofdeath - Sunday, June 23, 2013 - link

    For instance the last two NFS games really are struggling to run smoothly on full HD, with the Snapdragon 600, and really don't give you a frame-rate that satisfies that need for speed.

    Just because games run fine on smaller phones doesn't mean they don't benefit from more performance. Because more performance means that the can enable more rendering features. You can run PC games on integrated GPU's, too, but you still buy a $500 adapter to improve the experience, right?
  • UpSpin - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    What boggles my mind is that people complain about faster SoCs. The more powerful the SoC the more you can do with your smartphone and finally do stuff you only were able to do on a laptop. So there's really no reason to complain about faster SoCs, as long as battery life remains similar, which it does, it even dramatically increased compared to the first smartphones.

    And if you don't want the latest and greatest, then just don't buy the latest and greatest, but take the cheaper mid-range smartphones, which often have a much weaker SoC for people who don't do that much with their smartphone.

    You also seem to not understand that the Octa-Core is more like two different quad cores build with two different processes for two different purposes. The first quad core is build on fast power node, consumes lots of power, but is fast itself. The second quad core is build on low power node, is small in size and very efficient. It's a method first introduced by NVidia with the Tegra and available for other ARM licensees as big.LITTLE. It's intended purpose is just to save power, nothing else, because if you shut down a core it consumes almost nothing. And if you can do a simple task on a smaller more efficient CPU in the same time compared to a power hungry large CPU, then you'll save power. Once you need more processing power (games, web surfing, ) the big part kicks in. So no, idle cores drain no power, see power gating.
  • Impulses - Sunday, June 16, 2013 - link

    I haven't used a current gen phone on a daily basis yet, but I noticed a huge improvement in general use and multi taking throughout all three previous gen phones I've had... (original single core Snapdragon to dual to Krait) I'm sure RAM and other factors played a role, but I don't know that we've reached that point where mobile performance is "good enough" like we did a few years ago in desktops or even laptops... The smartphone usage model is still evolving rapidly and a lot of heavy processing services and functions are currently being offloaded to cloud services because mobile devices just aren't fast enough. Upgrades to other elements (like display density) also demand fasterhardware, and smartphones are gonna continue to benefit from gains achieved in efficiency and performance even if the target for the latter shifts to tablets and larger devices. Reply
  • Zink - Monday, June 17, 2013 - link

    Idle cores barely drain any power with modern power gating and higher frequencies allow hardware to "race to sleep", minimally impacting power consumption. High frequencies and core counts mean I don't have to wait 30 seconds for webpages to load anymore even while installing updates which is nice. Octocore phones in the current gen have been engineered to reduce power consumption, having two different quad cores together is a more power efficient way of providing high performance than one fast quad core.

    I just installed CPU-Z on my Nexus 4 and I can see two CPU cores running at 1.5 GHz installing updates and running the UI while the other two cores are either "stopped" and completely power gated or running at low frequency to efficiently complete background processes. If needed for tasks like 3D gaming or video editing all four cores can work together on the same task which can provide power savings over 2 high frequency cores. Having a faster processor is often desirable because it reduces the wait time for tasks to complete. Humans have limited time and short attention spans so this is beneficial for most smartphone use cases.
  • mooninite - Monday, June 17, 2013 - link

    If CPU-Z was written by competent individuals they would know to read /proc/cpuinfo for all their CPU details. Reply
  • Calin - Monday, June 17, 2013 - link

    I have the LG E-730 (Optimus Sol), and it doesn't give frequency, only the processor as "ARMv7 Processor rev 2 (v71)", 681 BogoMIPS, Features (swp half thumb fastmult vfp edsp neon vfpv3), with CPU implementer: 0x51 and some other hexadecimal values. Reply
  • reggjoo1 - Tuesday, June 18, 2013 - link

    I was happy when I saw that cpuz made a android app, until I tried to download it, and found out it doesn't work on gingerbread. If anybody needs a app like this, it's gingerbread, so we can find out certain things that other, less professional app can't tell us, that's the only way these phones can get off of gingerbread, and onto a better version of android. Reply
  • JustCommonSense - Friday, June 21, 2013 - link

    Or you could just not use a phone from 2009? Reply
  • chrone - Wednesday, June 19, 2013 - link

    i hope they will incorporate soc temperature in the future. :) Reply
  • hefesku - Wednesday, June 26, 2013 - link

    super app , now i know samsung is liying , it says pfoa 1 ghz core processor and in fact it is locked at 600 mhz ... Reply

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