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  • karasaj - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    Everything was great until the price. I think it's just a tad too expensive. I don't expect 800$ for something like this, but at least a starting range + available upgrades at like... 1099$? would have been very nice. Then again, they have a lot of nice features... but 1499$ just seems too high for the starting price. Reply
  • akmittal - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    $1499 thats why intel x86 have no future for mobile devices Reply
  • karasaj - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    What? How does this make any sense ever unless you (probably) are just trolling? Atom is already in tablets and phones. Bay trail, kabini, and temash will all be in tablets/ultraportables this year for under 300$.

    then again you're probably just trolling.
  • HisDivineOrder - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    When you combine the high profits that MS and Intel are used to making per x86 device (especially in the 90's), you have giant corporations with bureaucratic nightmares, layers and layers of managers with ever fewer employees with real skill, and all of them in a delusion that they can have those glory days again if they just introduce this one feature that will make everyone realize they really should pay $1500 for a tablet/laptop hybrid with Windows 8 Pro. The world changed and they fail to understand why it changed, though they have some inkling of at least HOW it changed.

    They're like your grandpa that refuses to acknowledge the year is not 10 years ago when he still could do things (since now he can't). He thinks you're like you were 10 years ago, he thinks everyone is. He remembers his glory days and remembers nothing BUT those glory days no matter how hard reality keeps slapping that delusion down.

    The sad thing is if Intel and MS don't stop screwing around with these high profit margins they keep expecting, they're going to wind up become business-only niche players in computing devices. Now there's money to be made there, but it won't be those huge profits they're used to and Intel will certainly have to start doing a lot of fab'ing for others if they lose the consumer market they've got a lock on right now.

    Then again, perhaps they both want to play out The IBM Story Part Deux: The Movie, tag-teaming the role of IBM in shifts. At least Intel is showing signs that they realize that a corporate shift is necessary with their changes to management and organization.

    Ballmer at MS is so afraid of being remembered a failure of a CEO after Bill Gates that he refuses to 1) let anyone get close to the Big Chair even as potential successor and 2) acts like the guy who looks out at a crowd running by and asks, "Hey! Where is that crowd going? I need to know so I can lead them there!" Like an ADHD kid, they bounce here and there, everywhere, with no cohesive vision, just a hodgepodge of everyone else's ideas crudely and poorly stitched together as devices and platforms.

    Hence, Windows 8, Surface, Skydrive,, Windows Phone, Xbox One, etc, etc.
  • WeaselITB - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    "just a hodgepodge of every else's ideas crudely and poorly stitched together as devices and platforms."

    Really? This is the first time in memory that Microsoft is rolling out an absolutely consistent look and feel across all their devices and applications. Office, Server, Xbox, Windows 8, Windows RT, Windows Phone, heck even .... all with a consistent user interface and consistent styling. With a company that large, change doesn't happen overnight, and so we're still in the midst of the change, but I'm very excited by what Microsoft has in store for the rest of the year (Windows Blue, Xbox One, etc.). This is by far the most cohesive that I've ever seen Microsoft, and that's a good thing.
  • CZroe - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    I've been looking for something to replace my M11x r3 with (screen is HORRIBLE). Anything bigger than 12.1" will not fit in my motorcycle tank bag (11.6" + bezel is often too tight) and I have yet to find one in that class with IPS (even MacBook Air isn't IPS). What can I expect from the graphics? Reply
  • bakedpatato - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    I highly doubt it has anything but intel HD4000 graphics. Reply
  • CZroe - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    So: at least as good as the current Macbook Air. I wasn't expecting it to have a dedicated gaming-class GPU. :) Reply
  • beginner99 - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    It's like always. Anything that seems like a good idea and actually usable in terms of a tablet is just ridiculously overpriced. I can get a good laptop and tablet for the same price while each device will be better at what it was made for. Nice gimmick for high-up managers and rich tech nerds but else? Reply
  • Jeff Bellin - Wednesday, June 12, 2013 - link

    I see you point entirely, but I like to believe that the competitive marketplace still works some of the time and I have to believe that if this is the starting price and Toshiba seems to have done a good job creating a sub-category that could be very important and for now it has it to itself, so why not price it as high as it thinks the market will bear? My hope is that competition will both force the price of this unit down (I'm guessing they have $200 of wiggle room, more as they go into higher volume production. I'm not sure if the equivalent Haswell cpu will cost more or less. Still, to focus only on price may be to ignore that this is a very attractive product. Also, recall that most business class products list for at least 20% more than their consumer brethren, less I think due to the cost of durability, more because enterprises will pay the freight. It's not at all unusual for Toshiba in particular to offer close to identical products at different price points depending on whether they are branded Portege, Tecra, etc. Reply
  • merikafyeah - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    Two words: Thinkpad Helix:

    It's out now, but at a really bad time; Haswell is just around the corner and is the single biggest improvement for battery life and efficiency Intel has ever achieved to date.

    If the Helix had Haswell and was about $1000 cheaper it would literally be my perfect device.
    (It's more than $2000 for the Core i7 model. Yikes.)
  • MrSpadge - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    Agreed: a helix with Haswell seems to nail it. I even wouldn't min if the keyboard unit was a bit thicker and heavier.. and contained an HGST 5k1500 1.5 TB HDD :)

    And use a 17W CPU with cTDP. This way you should be able to change between "very quiet", "normal" and "number crunching" with a single click (or so).
  • Penti - Thursday, May 30, 2013 - link

    No Wacom / Active digitizer in the Helix and it (this) competes against machines such as Lenovo X230T, Dell XPS12, XT3, Fujistu Stylistic Q702, HP EliteBook 2760p, Resolve 810 etc. Corp productivity machine, vPro, pen support is a totally different market than the helix. Reply
  • thesavvymage - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    damn, I'd love a tablet for business school in the fall, and seeing the digitizer support almost had me. But $1500? Hard to swallow when the surface pro costs $1000 for the same size ssd and still has the active digitizer. Not sure what would make this Toshiba model worth 50% more other than the keyboard Reply
  • GotThumbs - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    I just ordered two Surface Pros for my office. $1,000? Only if you choose NOT to order the 120.00 soft-touch keyboard. If you want the higher end keyboard, then its 139.00.

    While 1,500 is nothing to sneeze at....I think almost ALL of the posters are overlooking what this product provides for that price. No accessories to add onto the price to be up and running with the use of a keyboard. Even Apples tablet prices jump when you start tacking on all the extra accessories you need to use the device.

    Be realistic and if you think you can produce a better product for less, please do. I look forward to reading the reviews for your low price, high spec device in the future and will seriously consider buying one.

    Best Wishes,
  • GotThumbs - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    Clarification. My last comment was not directed at thesavvymage, but to all those commenters bashing the product. Reply
  • faiakes - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    11.6" , 1920*1080 - again!?!

    These things have a 1.777 ratio, which is makes practically useless in portrait mode.
    What if I want to read a magazine or a comic book?

    I may not go near Apple stuff but if there is one thing the iPad has done right, is exactly that: understand that reading requires more width (or height depending on the perspective). The iPad 4 has a 1.333 ratio. If it was larger than 11" I would have bought one by now, iOS be damned.
  • althaz - Wednesday, May 29, 2013 - link

    I couldn't disagree more strongly. The 4:3 format is utterly retarded for a 9"+ tablet (it's awesome for the iPad mini though). 16:9 is WAY better (although 16:10 would be perfect).

    One handed, the iPad is a little unwieldy in either mode, whilst the portrait-mode Surface is much nicer to hold (it just balances much better in one hand).

    In movie-watching the iPad wastes a lot of space, defeating some of the purpose of going for a larger (than 7-8") device.

    If you are reading a book you want more height, if you are working you want more width (admitedly you can't do much in the way of work on the iPad, but it's getting there in this regard). 16:9 is a HUGE advantage over the ridiculously archaic format of the iPad. It's not perfect (in my view 16:10 is perfect), but it's certainly a lot better than 4x3. In my mind that's one of the key problems with the iPad (the other being a reasonably awful operating system).
  • faiakes - Thursday, May 30, 2013 - link

    If we're talking about large tablets then the waste in video viewing space is negligible as far as I'm concerned,. Also, at 9"+ (or 11"+ which I'm looking for) size you'd have trouble holding anything one handed.

    Yet load a pdf on one of these 11.6" 16:9 (or worse) resolutions and seen how height you waste in portrait mode while everything has to look tiny to squeeze in the width of the publication. 16:9 limits the tablet to video consumption and constant scrolling of web pages.
  • Visual - Thursday, May 30, 2013 - link

    I was pretty much set on getting a Helix, Haswell "around the corner" is a good reason to wait but experience tells me it will be more than a year till that actually makes its way into similar tablets. Then again, Murphy's law says if I do actually buy the IVB version, the updated one will come on the next day...

    The Helix price is high, much like on this model. But if it is with 3G, GPS, 256GB SSD, 3 year warranty, better build quality, dock included etc, then it almost makes up for it. Only thing that seemed missing was keyboard backlight...

    Lets hope Toshiba also load up their model with similar goodies to make up for the price. If they launch soon enough I may even buy their product instead of Lenovo's, though I'm already a bit tired of waiting.
  • xpantz - Sunday, June 02, 2013 - link

    A bit expensive perhaps.. but I would happily pay that for such a nice piece of kit.

    It has almost everything except....... GPS

    Handicapped and deal broken.
  • - Monday, June 03, 2013 - link

    Where Can I Buy This Device In Indian Market. Reply

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