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  • colinw - Saturday, January 19, 2013 - link

    How long have we been complaining about AMD (and ATI) drivers?

    I don't use multiple GPUs so with my desktop PC it's not a big deal, but there's no way I will touch an AMD dGPU powered laptop in the near future.
  • CeriseCogburn - Friday, January 25, 2013 - link

    Bad luck with AMD ?
    It's not the bad year, it's the bad luck DECADE.

    I am sorry but what is their problem man !

    I can see what their response is to all the little amd consumers: " Why did you mess with anything ?! JUST USE WHAT YOU GOT, IT WORKED THEN ! "
    " HIT F11 upon reboot and restore to factory defaults.. "
    (probably the only way to get somewhat 'reliable' performance again)
    " It's not our fault here at AMD, call your notebook vendor for updates. This thread is closed."

    AMD is dysfunctional. The dysfunctional GPU family, by amd.
  • DarkStryke - Saturday, January 19, 2013 - link

    Oh look, same old story and enduro is still a buggy mess for many. I believe I got called out for making too much of this with one of your reviews like 2 months ago, well it's the same old story.

    Buyer beware, AMD is not worth the headache in the mobile spaces.
  • StevoLincolnite - Saturday, January 19, 2013 - link

    It's mostly the install process people have issues with on the mobility side.

    I have an AMD Trinity Notebook and about half way through downloading the drivers using the verification tool it just conks out and goes no farther.

    Downloading them manually via Guru3D is flawless and they install and work great.
    I mean, why do we need a verification tool in the first place? Why not give us the option to download them manually and thus give us less of a bloody headache.
  • duploxxx - Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - link

    typing on a latitude 6520 with switchable graphics (INtel - Nvidia) doesn't work either that well. Only when I set the GPU type manually to what i want i will get a decent result. Often game startup will end up with black screen and hard reboot with the default Intel gpu unless right click select graphics to use....

    oh btw, nvidia doesn't neither autoupdate the graphics so why complain on AMD only....
  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, January 23, 2013 - link

    Acer M5, running 306.02 NVIDIA drivers: right-click system tray icon, choose "Check for updates". I get a window saying, "You're running 306.02; 310.90 is available." Click the download button and away it goes. Same thing happens on four other Optimus laptops I have, including an 18 month old laptop with dual-core Sandy Bridge and GT 540M graphics. So while you apparently have issues on one laptop, I'm five for five on getting updated drivers with both Fermi and Kepler GPUs on NVIDIA laptops. And the drivers all installed properly on each laptop. Reply
  • Bob Todd - Saturday, January 19, 2013 - link

    Thanks for the continued coverage of the Enduro situation Jarred, please keep it up. As you surmised, things are still totally broken on a Sandy Bridge based Envy 15 (2670QM/7690M). Update utility says "the version of your graphics adapter is not supported". Looking for the update from inside CCC works, but the installer says the old driver (official HP bundle) is up to date and indeed does not update upon install. From a clean install, the drivers appear to install fine, but it's back to the old situation where Windows disables the card and CCC won't even show any hardware information. This happens with the default Intel driver from Windows Update or the latest official Intel release installed. So like you said, it's actually kind of a step backwards since the drivers don't install and mostly work on top of the OEM drivers like they used to. I was really hoping the first non-beta driver would do the trick. AMD, please keep at it until you get this working on older Dynamic Switchable Graphics hardware. To their credit, HP actually had their Windows 8 graphics bundle up for the launch, albeit with an old driver. Reply
  • milli - Saturday, January 19, 2013 - link

    I've noticed that things are a bit different between the driver installation of nVidia and AMD. While nVidia's Optimus driver installation requires you to first install the Intel iGPU driver, AMD's Enduro is the opposite. The AMD driver will install the required driver. Maybe you should consider to first uninstall all drivers (AMD and Intel) with internet disconnected and try to install 13.1 again after a reboot.

    Off-topic: can't post any messages from IE10. Works from FF18.
  • milli - Saturday, January 19, 2013 - link

    To the Europeans of this forum, you can also download the drivers from this German server quite a bit faster than Guru3D:
    (one time registration required though)
  • thomasmorkeberg - Saturday, January 19, 2013 - link

    I don't get how people at a hardware site can't even get a driver to work.

    I just installed it on my laptop (Clevo P150em) with a 7970M GFX and it worked wonders.
    The enduro settings is way better then in the 12.11 beta drivers, and almost all my software is now preset with what gfx to use.

    And the performance is also way better for me. I went straight from 5600 in 3DMark 11 to 6600 points with the 13.1 driver.

    Really don't get the complaining. For me the 7970 driver problems are now fixed!
  • silverblue - Saturday, January 19, 2013 - link

    I just don't see how this sort of verification tool cannot work. Cards have specific IDs that must correspond with a list... or am I oversimplifying things here?

    I know this is a hardware site, but regardless of being able to manually install drivers, if somebody releases a tool to supposedly help with the process then it should really work as intended.
  • JarredWalton - Saturday, January 19, 2013 - link

    I believe the core issue is that some OEMs didn't want AMD releasing updated drivers. But now there are so many ID codes that AMD might simply eliminate any that they haven't specifically tested. Whatever the case, the full drivers will install in many cases but the utility seems to only work on a small subset of hardware IDs right now. :-\ Reply
  • Bob Todd - Saturday, January 19, 2013 - link

    I don't get how you can respond to an article you apparently weren't even intelligent enough to comprehend. You think Jarred doesn't know how to install a driver? The success or total failure is completely dependent on your hardware. Folks with Ivy Bridge/GCN (official Enduro) are fine now. But this driver is supposed to work all the way back to PowerXpress 4.0, which it currently doesn't. At all. Did you even read the next to the last paragraph? Reply
  • Dustin Sklavos - Saturday, January 19, 2013 - link

    Well, it worked for him and his sample size of one, so it must work for everybody. Reply
  • CeriseCogburn - Friday, January 25, 2013 - link

    thomas, use your head - all the amd catalyst hacks have the big A 7970 lappy they do their crap work on, so of course, you bought the big boy, and it works - amd gets the very top correct because they must do the very bare minimum - as far as everything else- forget it.

    So the bloated heads of the catalyst makers get their own corpo issued speedy laptop working then they're done. " Hey it works for me, what's your problem ?! (comsumer complaining in amd forum gets told off by amd rep) ".

    That's how it works at amd bro. The top corpo dogs have fun jacking with their corpo pig top tier and screw everyone and everything else.
  • junky77 - Sunday, January 20, 2013 - link

    Well, I used the 12.11 v.11 beta drivers and it worked fine for, but when I installed the 13.1 drivers, the device manager showed that the 7730M drivers installed are from the 8/8/2012 (there are two devices in the 'device manager' - 7700M series gpu and 7660G + 7700M). The 12.11 beta drivers showed 12/2/2012 drivers for a "7700M" and "7660G" GPUs.

    With both drivers, the screen brightness control didn't work.

    Using the factory installed Windows 8 that came with the laptop, fully updated
  • dczyz - Sunday, January 20, 2013 - link

    Its the only way I can get the ati drivers to work on a HP notebook. Come on ATI - unified drivers now!

    My next notebook will be nvidia.
  • JarredWalton - Monday, January 21, 2013 - link

    I didn't mention this in the article as I've previously discussed this, but the Leshcatlab drivers are the only way I could get anything to work with Enduro/switchable graphics on the Sony VAIO C and Windows 8. I'm not sure if the updated 13.1 drivers change that at all, but I did manage to upgrade from the previous 12.11 beta11 drivers to 13.1 without problems at least. Reply
  • dczyz - Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - link

    I actually scraped Windows 8 on my notebook. Just to many problems with the ati drivers.

    Went back to Windows 7, and the Leshcat's 13.1 and it worked great. I have a cheap hp dv-6.

    Next notebook will be a Haswell / Nvida combo I think
  • vias79 - Tuesday, January 22, 2013 - link

    Downloading the 13.1 driver and installing it worked on my Dell Vostro 3550 with 6630M card. Was using 12-1_mobility_vista_win7_64_dd_ccc before that which I found in this thread Couldn't get any other version to work. The 12.1 version had problems though with my GPU not working all the time "video card reset problem" which made explorer restarting. These problems are now gone with the 13.1 driver.

    So thanks for the article! Wish it wasn't such a jungle to be able to install notebook graphic drivers.

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