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  • Cygni - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    No. Reply
  • coder543 - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    You should've just left it at "Personal Response"

    Yours is not the response of the market. I have no interest in this tablet, but I know many people who would be interested in it.
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  • A5 - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    I can't imagine there's much of a market for a $1000 gaming tablet that isn't good at gaming or being a tablet. Reply
  • Cygni - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    If you honestly think this thing will gain any sort of market, i have a Phantom brand console to sell you. Reply
  • lunarx3dfx - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    If you honestly think this product was ever intended as a mass market product then you need your head examined. This product was a niche product from conception and Razer knows it. They priced the tablet and its accessories appropriately for the target market.

    If I had to guess I would imagine Razer anticipates only selling a handful of these things just as I'm sure they only expected to sell a handful of Razer Blades (considering the price/specs).

    I personally am not in the market for this product, but I guarantee that a market exists for a product such as this albeit a small one. Keep in mind that the only reason they even brought the device from concept to market is because of consumer interest based on likes on their facebook page.

    Instead of being a cynic maybe you should learn a little something about how businesses operate and how they determine what products to bring to market. If Razer didn't expect to make some money off of the Edge they wouldn't be releasing it.
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  • RoninX - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    I'm definitely in the market for this product. I do a lot of travel for business, and this would be perfect for use on the plane. Reply
  • Cygni - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    Picturing someone whipping this huge thing out of their carry-on and grappling around in confined space, knocking elbows with the people next to them, trying to play some crappy low res game... oh its just the best. Reply
  • Cygni - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    Yes, going off of Facebook comments from weirdos, this is surely the fantastic business model of the future.

    Also I don't give a shit about them making money or their profit margins or anything else, my statement stands. If you honestly think this thing will gain any sort of market, i have a Phantom brand console to sell you.
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  • vanwazltoff - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - link

    totally agree, you can build a decent gaming rig for the price of this and one of the accessories or get a sager gaming laptop Reply
  • Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    Why would anyone want to spend money on an integrated gpu that just gets disabled in lieu of a discrete gpu that simply sucks down battery life. Why not just stick a trinity in there and settle for whatever performance you can get? Reply
  • Wolfpup - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    Hmm, Trinity does sound like an interesting idea for this... Might be cheaper too. Whatever A10 they can stick in the combined power envelope of the CPU + GPU. Hadn't thought of that, seems like a good choice!

    At any rate, I'm fairly excited by this, to at least see how it turns out. Seems like the only big downside is the TN panel, which is kind of baffling in something being sold as a tablet.
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  • lunarx3dfx - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    I don't think Trinity would be a good idea for this. As far as I know Trinity is not offered withing the normal operating range I'm sure they were shooting for. If the discrete GPU is disabled this thing should sip at power if a 7W CPU is in use. Trinity doesn't come anywhere near that low of power consumption and therefore is not a viable option for a "tablet" platform no matter how loose your definition of a tablet is. The only way Trinity does hit the mark is when the discrete GPU is in use. I could potentially see it using less power in that situation, but this thing is intended for double duty as a tablet and for games. Reply
  • chizow - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    Because a Trinity or any other integrated GPU might not cut it at 720p. Given this is a gaming-centric tablet meant to run full-fledged Windows PC titles, a discrete GPU may be the difference between playable framerates or an abject failure that completely misses it's intended application.

    Besides, with the power-saving features of Optimus and integrated GPU of Ivy Bridge, there's really no reason not to have an option for a discrete GPU.

    Personally, I don't think the discrete GPU shipping in this first run is even enough to satisfy me. OTOH, I would LOVE a tablet with a beefy enough discrete GPU to be able to drive 1080p at Medium settings in most games, as that would be a true console alternative for PC gamers that want something lightweight to hook up to their HDTVs. Maybe the next-gen option if it offers 2x the perf at similar power consumption.
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  • Death666Angel - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    Looks like a fun product to me. Niche? Of course. But not everything has to sell like hot chocolate in order to be made. However, I personally like Asus' idea more with the detachable display that gets streamed content from your PC in the base. Give it a good kickstand and (wireless) connectivity for controllers and voilà. :D Reply
  • Death666Angel - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    - TN panel is a shame here as is no USB 3.0
    - I wonder if the wattage saved by going with a 7W (? I heard Anand only talk about 10W special edition IVB ULV CPUs up to now) ULV CPU will be offset by having to use a dGPU. Would like to see a comparison to a 25W fully fledged, fully useable Dual-Core+HD4000 solution here. Unless the dGPU uses under 18W.
    - Price will be Razer high, not doubt about that. They aren't aiming for mainstream here. The laptops are ridiculously overpriced as well and they still sell apparently.
    - AMD APU would be interesting, but I don't think Trinity would fit the power budget. Brazos 2.0 @ 28nm (forgot the name) would be something though.
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  • lunarx3dfx - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    I've seen conflicting reports regarding the display. I've seen some articles stating that it is an IPS display, although I am inclined to believe Anandtech more than the other media out there.

    As far as USB 3.0 if you watch the engadget hands on video the Razer rep specifically states that it does have USB 3.0 on the tablet itself. It would seem that the dock only supports USB 2.0 whereas the tablet itself has 3.0. In their presentation however the decision to not use USB 3.0 in the dock makes sense because of how they envision the dock being used. Their intended use case is as a console hooked up to a TV. The USB ports are for more controllers to be hooked up. Their PC use case as specified by them is with the keyboard and a mouse. That being said I would've liked to see USB 3.0 in the dock because I can see it being used as a desktop replacement as well.
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  • VivekGowri - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    So the onboard USB port is 3.0, the dock is all 2.0. The post should say that, you might have missed it.

    I was told it wasn't IPS and was TN explicitly by Min himself, I'll get confirmation on that tomorrow.
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  • Death666Angel - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    Missed that USB 3.0 bit, yeah. Sorry for that. :D
    Though doesn't the chipset have 4 USB 3.0 ports available? Or do they have to use some sort of external controller for the dock? If they have the ports from the chipset available, why not just use all of them. Having high-bandwidth storage access would definitely be a good use for the dock in my opinion. And in a new product like this, I don't think USB 2.0 is important for legacy stuff (I can't use USB 3.0 ports on my HTPC mainboard for bootable USB sticks for example, USB 2.0 on that board works fine like that). :) Oh well. :D
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  • chizow - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    I think these gaming tablets + desktop replacements have a chance, but price and performance still need to lower and converge.

    Drop these into the $500-600 range with slightly improved specs and I think you will have a winning combination that can compete with the consoles in the living/family rooms of America.
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  • cscott_it - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    The "official" specs on the website state that both models will be IPS.
    Depending on the hands on, I might pick one up.
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  • VivekGowri - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    That's not what I was told, I'll reconfirm and update. Reply
  • eanazag - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    I hope it is pushing something WiDi enabled. If it is not, AMD would be more interesting in this and drop it about $150 in price. Reply
  • Quizzical - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    A 1.7 or 1.9 GHz Ivy Bridge dual core is not going to be a 7 W CPU. I think the article meant 17 W.

    With the official GPU specs on a GeForce GT 640M LE stating "up to" 384 shaders and "up to" 500 MHz, is it really going to beat Radeon HD 7620G integrated graphics in an A10-4655M? Maybe it will, but it's not obvious.

    And even if it does, that plus a 17 W CPU is going to be a lot more power than 25 W for an A10-4655M. And it might come to more power than the 35 W for an A10-4600M.
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  • A5 - Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - link

    One of the big stories in the leadup to CES was Intel officially announcing a 7W IVB variant for use in Windows 8 tablets (aka the part they made for Surface Pro is now available to other OEMs). Reply
  • Quizzical - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - link

    http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-edge...

    "Intel Core i7 Dual core w/ Hyper Threading Base 1.9GHz / Turbo 3.0GHz"

    Think Intel can magically make a 7 W bin with exactly the same specs as a Core i7-3517U, a high bin of a 17 W version? I don't.
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  • mattlach - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - link

    I wouldn't mind a Windows 8 tablet with enough of a GPU for some light gaming (portable Civ 5 device?) but this is not my thing.

    Actually, it might not be bad just as a standalone tablet without all the "gaming" attachments.

    That being said, why on earth would they use a Intel CPU and a separate Nvidia GPU, when they could achieve the same results with a Trinity AMD fusion product.

    It seems cost-wise, power-wise and just from a board space/integration perspective, this would be a silly way to go at this low level of GPU power.
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  • ezridah - Wednesday, January 09, 2013 - link

    On their website they are advertising it as having an IPS display. That would be pretty messed up if they're lying... They are one way or another: either to you or to the world.

    http://www.razerzone.com/gaming-systems/razer-edge

    In the tech specs section:
    Display 10.1” (IPS, 1366x768)
    10-point capacitive touch
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