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  • Scannall - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    It seems to me that $500 is really too high for that. Microcenter often has the Auria 2560x1440 IPS in stock for $400, with the warranty and all that.

    I'm one of those that went the Korean monitor route. My budget was $300, and I ended up spending $295 delivered. I do acknowledge there is a little risk there. But mine arrived and works perfectly. And it looks far better than anything else I could have bought for the same money.

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  • piroroadkill - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    I agree. Either you go dirt cheap and you take a risk, or you buy a Dell U2711.
    I don't see the point spending more than the cheapest and getting something which is barely better, and still has a slightly cheap appearance.
    If I'm going to spend money on a monitor, it better look the part too (I have a Dell U2410).
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  • PubFiction - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    I went the Korean way but I heard alot of people cry about the warranty. So I think they will have a niche. Also the Auria seems to be hit or miss for availability. In fact even searching for it on the website is hit or miss, sometimes in the same day I can find it one minute and not the next.

    Also Korean monitors can be had for under $300, and $400 will get you the much better crossover stand.
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  • DigitalFreak - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    That Auria you say Microcenter has isn't on their website, and I've never seen it in my local store. Where are you located? Reply
  • Octavean - Saturday, September 22, 2012 - link

    The $399.99 AURIA EQ276W from Microcenter appears to be virtually identical to the the Nixeus NX-VUE27 reviewed here. The only difference appears to be the stand (no rotation or hight adjust) and the ~$30 to ~$100 markup.

    I don't see the point in paying more for the NX-VUE27 or taking a risk on the Korean single input solutions.
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  • jhoff80 - Wednesday, September 26, 2012 - link

    Yeah, I don't care what Nixeus has said, but this is definitely a rebrand of the Auria (or whatever initial product the Auria came from).

    Even the OSD is identical.
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  • lowlymarine - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    I find it strange that you wouldn't include the measurements taken from the Korean panels (http://www.anandtech.com/show/5885/the-achieva-shi... especially since they're the most obvious competitor here.

    That said, I have (had?) a Catleap Q270 and can't recommend the experience either. Due to a questionable design decision (the side panel where you connect both the DC power plug and the DL-DVI panel was made of a conductive metal), it shorted out, causing sparks to erupt from the DVI cable when it touched the metal surface of the connector - mercifully, my video card was not damaged, even though that was the end of the DVI I was plugging in when it happened. So I contacted the eBay seller, who offered to pay for return shipping to Korea and to send out a replacement unit. That was a month ago today, and I still haven't received the replacement unit, although the seller did finally acknowledge receipt of the defective one and his intent to ship out the replacement "as soon as possible" on Tuesday morning. And of course, even when/if I do receive a replacement, it's likely to have the same potential for disaster.
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  • TheJian - Friday, September 28, 2012 - link

    Yet, Ryan tried to argue these are a popular thing in the forums last month...LOL. I debated it, and his 660TI remarks & conclusions in their 660TI launch review comments sections, until they (ryan and Jarred Walton) were reduced to insinuating I was an Ahole and uninformed etc...LOL. They really couldn't argue with my data :) EBay monitors...Jeez. If I'm that cheap or plain poor, I don't risk my money on some dude from Korea...ROFL Reply
  • Mygaffer - Friday, June 07, 2013 - link

    Its funny, you do you come off as an ahole. Reply
  • lowlymarine - Saturday, October 20, 2012 - link

    Since I happened to come across this post again while looking for the name of this display, I figure I'll update on what happened with my Catleap Q270. I did finally receive the replacement from Korea on the 18th of October (so just shy of two months without my display), and it DOES NOT have the same design flaw as the original unit. The side panel is now plastic, which should alleviate the path for arcing between the power jack and DVI port. Furthermore, color accuracy and backlight bleed on the replacement unit are much improved. Sadly, it does have a single stuck green subpixel in the top right quadrant, but it's hardly noticeable.

    I'd still say spending the little extra for a display where your warranty service (if necessary) will take a week instead of two months is probably worth it. But if you can't swing an extra $200 - not an insignificant sum, to be sure - there's a lot less chance of the same disaster I experienced befalling you, hopefully.
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  • Karman - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    "I wish they would have used different screws for attaching the support column to the display than they did for the base, to make it easier to differentiate."

    If the screws are all the same (as the text implies) there is nothing to differentiate. Selecting the correct screw couldn't get any easier!
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  • cheinonen - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    The screws are different, but only slightly different, so it's easy to get the two confused if you were to mix up the bags, or disassemble it. For connecting it to the display, I'd prefer something like a thumbscrew that you can easily install, and then use a screwdriver for the final tightening like the Antec P182 case has for keeping the panels on. Just something that looks more distinct. Reply
  • Bateluer - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    Ended up being 290 each with shipping. With the warranty/support questions, I picked up the 3yr SquareTrade Warranty for each as well. They are definitely cheap, the stands wobble, the two displays aren't level with each other on the unadjustable stand, and I had to adjust the calibration manually. But all in all, they have no dead pixels and no back light bleed, so I'm very happy with the purchase.

    The major downside is how poorly some of my games run at 5120x1440 on a Radeon 6950. :( Damn EyeFinity.
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  • Sabresiberian - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    Well at that resolution you really need more than one video card, and as strong as you can afford. It's also possible to reach 2GB of memory use in some games. The PCIe 2 interface can effect your results as well, though again, I wouldn't expect it to make a huge difference for you.

    You might be able to use the cheaper monitor, but there is no cheaper video card solution to match that kind of price range. Really, switching to one 7970 would make a big difference for you, and might give you good enough performance that you are satisfied with your gaming experience.

    ;)
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  • hechacker1 - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    For that kind of money, I'd just go get the certified 120Hz version from Korea. Sure the warranty and build quality won't be as good, but they do guarantee their best A- panels along with 120Hz and not "too many" dead pixels for that price. Reply
  • Doh! - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    Be aware that some of these inexpensive "Korean" panels are actually Chinese panels (made in China by Chinese OEM manufacturers and supplied to Samsung/LG and sold as Samsung/LG panels).
    In Korea, the tech-savvy buyers always investigate the origin of the panel as the quality of the panel varies significantly between the Samsung/LG-manufactured ones from the OEM-supplied panels made in China.
    Besides the panel (or sometimes including the panel as noted above), every other components such as the stand, case are made in China by the way.
    It's a shame that better manufacturers using the genuine Samsung/LG panels and high-quality workmanship are not yet available outside of Korea as the price is not much more than these "knockoffs" monitors.
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  • trynberg - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.a... Reply
  • jackstar7 - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    I wouldn't call that a great deal though as it is only:

    1920 x 1080 at 60 Hz
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  • trynberg - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    Fair enough. Reply
  • Roland00Address - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    Which is not the same as 2560x1440 panels that Chris is referencing. Reply
  • sheh - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    Too bad they kept the size and reduced the resolution rather than vice versa. :) Reply
  • Confusador - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    Amen! I really want this resolution, but can't stand anything bigger than 23" Reply
  • falko2904 - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    But that Dell is significantly lower resolution. It is only 1920x1080 (actually fine by me for what I would want). The class of monitors being talked about have 2560x1440 resolution.

    LIke I said, for my purpose, I actually like that Dell.
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  • ikoss - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    Dude.. that's 1080p crap, not to mention not likely to be an IPS! Reply
  • DanNeely - Sunday, September 23, 2012 - link

    It's listed as IPS on the spec page; might only be eIPS though. Reply
  • Sabresiberian - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    1920x1080 @ 27" might be fine for a TV across the living room, but it's crap for a monitor. Reply
  • RaistlinZ - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    Poor contrast, poor color gamut, high input lag, high power draw, mediocre build quality.

    You get what you pay for.
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  • cheinonen - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    I'm just going to suggest you didn't fully read the article or didn't look at similar displays in the results tables. The contrast was poor in comparison to the HP 27" display, but was close to the results from the NEC and DoubleSight panels. The color gamut is sRGB, exactly what it was specified for, and exactly what you get. The power draw was lower than all the other tested 27" displays, so that was good, and I commented plenty on the build quality.

    With input lag, other than the HP ZR2740w, which has no scaler, the input lag on all the other 27" models is almost identical (and the new review has the same issue). Whatever scaler is being used isn't incredibly fast, and combined with the response time of the display, the absolute minimum you are going to get is 1 frame. If you run at 1440p, you might get exactly 1 frame, but as I said, I have no way of knowing this. So in comparison to 27" displays, the lag, gamut, contrast, and power draw are either close to the same or better in most cases, with the build quality being the main issue in comparison.
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  • sheh - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    ...in case manufacturers scour the web for public opinion. :)

    Still waiting for hi-res in DPI rather than absolute number of pixels. And enough with 16:9. OLED aside, wanted: 3840x2400 in 24". If they don't start upping the DPI in desktop, soon enough cellphones will become higher-res (in pixels) than desktop monitors.
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  • magreen - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    This.

    It's long past time for graphics drivers and operating systems to treat displays as a resolution independent output device, the way printers are. When you print a document to a printer that can print 600 dpi, it looks just like that same document printed on a 300 dpi printer except a bit sharper.

    I'm so tired of having to blow up pdfs and word documents to much larger than their actual size because otherwise I can't read the smaller text (even if I put my face close to the monitor).
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  • magreen - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    Especially given that there appears to be a real surplus of compute power in computers these days. The vast majority of users have no need for the compute power an i7 can deliver nor what most discrete GPUs can deliver. It's time to harness that power to finally give us resolution independent displays! Reply
  • peterfares - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    Windows fully supports DPI scaling since Vista. Most Microsoft programs fully support it and a few third party ones do, too. You can also try forcing high DPI mode on unsupported programs and see which ones work. Otherwise you can run them at their original pixel size or you can pixel scale them.

    Microsoft made a small push for higher DPI screens back during Vista's launch (along with hybrid hard drives) and it's only now when screens are finally moving up in DPI (look at the new laptops and tablets with 13" 1080p screens). Hybrid hard drives are also coming into play, though it's a bit late since SSDs are becoming big and cheap enough to completely replace them. Vista was just far ahead of its time.
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  • cosmotic - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    "vista was just far ahead of its time"

    Yeah, *thats* what vista was.
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  • Malphas - Monday, September 24, 2012 - link

    Actually it was, try Vista again today and you'll find it a near identical experience to Windows 7. The reason it was so awful at the time was due to underpowered hardware (made worse by the Vista Ready scheme Microsoft stupidly went along with to appease OEMs), incompatible hardware and software, buggy third party drivers, software that didn't play nice with UAC, etc. The actual OS itself is sound and again only cosmetically different from Windows 7, which received near universal praise. Reply
  • Penti - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    Readyboost is still horrible and should die, seriously just give me an mSATA SSD + HDD if cheap storage is needed instead of 5400 rpm drives and small sub 64GB SSDs for caching. It's worse then a fast HDD. DPI-scaling is by no means an nice and clean way of scaling elements in Windows, not even all Microsoft apps support it. Though it's standard to have it scale on OEM-PCs since a long time now. Metro still scales horrible though. Reply
  • madmilk - Thursday, September 27, 2012 - link

    It supports it in basically the same way the retina Macbook does (assuming Vista-style scaling): show natively high-res apps at full resolution, and scale up the rest.

    The difference is, Microsoft hasn't gone out and made noise about it, so pretty much everyone's apps are just using ugly scaling.
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  • Sabresiberian - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    "Resolution" has been perverted since LCDs came out. It used to be tied to pixel density. So, correctly speaking cell phones already have higher resolutions than monitors.

    ;)
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  • jeremyshaw - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    Hello,

    I've noticed you mentioned HDMI 1.4 support in the specifications list. Does that mean an AMD GCN or Intel Ivy Bridge (do the Ivy Bridge drivers support that, yet?) can output, via a HDMI output, a 2560x**** image at 60Hz?
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  • peterfares - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    It's been stated that this display supports those resolutions over HDMI as long as you have a device capable of sourcing it. I don't know what can source it, if anything, yet. Reply
  • atotroadkill - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    From what I can find on the web, if you are using the CPU's embedded GPU for the HDMI output then no - only displayport can.

    To power 2560x1440 over HDMI you may need a descrete Nvidia 600 series card.
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  • Death666Angel - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    Or AMD 7xxx. :) Reply
  • Penti - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    No, just no. Only 3 GHz HDMI 1.4a support above 1920x1200. Don't confuse the two, the monitor does not support it. DVI-DL or DP that rules here. The Nixues might accept a higher res signal over HDMI but it doesn't have the bandwidth to handle it so it causes issues. DP or DVI-DL recommended and is the only one's supported by the vendor. It's basically like trying to run SL-DVI at a higher res then specced here. Skip HDMI-connections whenever you can, skip notebooks with only HDMI whenever you can if you want to run over 1920x1200. Even if you happen to have stuff supporting HDMI 1.4a 3GHz (3GHz part is vital here) in your portable stuff the monitor isn't yet supporting it. They need a new generation of chips driving the displays. GCN and Kepler might be practical if you like to run above 2560x1600 though, but most monitors still requires two DP-connections for 3840x2160/2400 when they don't have true DP1.2 support. There isn't really much of any hardware around to support all the other DP1.2 features either such as daisy chaining.

    HDMI is essentially useless here unless it can scale your console (1280x720/1920x1080) good enough on that screen to be usable and correctly viewed. VGA isn't really any use either. You simply have to use a lower res screen if you don't have access to DL-DVI and or DP supporting stuff.
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  • atotroadkill - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    Thanks for the clarification... I currently use the displayport connection from my GTX 670 to my NX-VUE27... before when I was using HDMI 1.4 I did experience artifacts and some sync issues at 2560x1440. After that I tried Dual Link DVI but I couldn't see my bios... but after switching to Displayport those issues went away. Reply
  • Despoiler - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    Too much processing lag. 2 FRAMES!!! Glad I held off. That is a non-starter. Reply
  • atotroadkill - Thursday, September 20, 2012 - link

    "Because I have to run at a non-standard resolution compared to the Nixeus, you might see some additional lag being added to the input than if you ran natively, but there is no way for me to actually test the native input lag time. There is also no way on the Nixeus to set a 1080p image to be centered and not scaled, which might reduce lag by doing 1:1 mapping and bypassing the scaler but at the expense of only using part of the screen."

    The 2 Frames and processing is because of Non-Native resolution testing and testing it 1080p...so if you are gaming at 1080p on the monitor then yes it will bother you - and gaming on this monitor at 1080 you shouldn't get this monitor anyways.

    I'm using it at 2560x1440 playing BF3 and it has no affect on my shooting and timing (with V-SYNC off)
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  • abhaxus - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    I wonder about this also. Since the author doesn't have a CRT capable of 1440p for reference, why not just compare the input lag using the HP as a reference at 1440p? Seems like a solution that might get answers for those of us who are quite interested in this monitor. I suspect it's as you say, that without scaling it can do ok. Reply
  • cheinonen - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    Well, testing that would require that I still have the HP monitor, but since I didn't buy it, that isn't really an option for me to do. The only CRTs out there that can do 1440p are probably projectors with 9" CRTs, and unfortunately installing a 100+ lb. projector, not to mention the cost of finding one in great shape to test it, precludes that. Reply
  • trynberg - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    Not that I expect you to get one, but there are plenty of 19-21" CRTs out there that can do 2048X1536 resolution for dirt cheap...I have two sitting at home right now (19" Mitsubishi and 21" Sun/Sony). Reply
  • cheinonen - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    It has to be 2560x1440, though, for the exact same native resolution, and something that can do that is incredibly hard to find. Reply
  • Sabresiberian - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    Hmm well okay the Sony GDM FW900 runs at 2304x1440, not 2560, but wouldn't that give you better results?

    (I'm not sure this is a huge issue, as long as your testing methodology is consistent across LCD displays.)
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  • Sabresiberian - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    Uh, can you say Sony GDM FW900?

    ;)
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  • hcforde - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    I got one of the first shipments and have ordered 2 more. I use mine mostly for productivity but have run a number of games just to see how they look and feel. I am mostly playing Crysis 2 with all the eye candy turned up(no AA as it is not necessary). Coming from a 1920*1200 monitor, I do not notice any lag either. I am running 2-2GB 5870's Xfired.

    A bit disappointed that other "bargain" monitors were not shown against this one. Apples-to-apples comparison are always better in my opinion.

    I would recommend it to gamers that want to play at 2560*1440
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  • Scannall - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    They did a review of one of the bargain ones earlier this year.

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/5885/the-achieva-shi...

    It looks like, from the results the bargain one did a lot better.
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  • atotroadkill - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    They used a different new testing method for the NX-VUE27 than the one for the achieva. Reply
  • atotroadkill - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    Some of the testing methods used for the NX-VUE27 was different than that review. Reply
  • cruzinbill - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    I think that I will just stick to korean monitors. 2 for 550 shipped and it seems to be actually nicer quality than this one. If you go through a good seller for the Korean models you can normally get one with 0 dead pixels as well.

    Only complaint on them is the base could be more sturdy..... but I dont flash dance on my desk so its not an issue.
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  • Wkstar - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    Two Catleap 2703's for $600. delivered
    They are Perfect !
    I do Not have any Pixel or Lightbleed issues
    The stand is good, I do not dance on my desk so they do Not wobble
    I have never wanted a stand that rotates, or pivots, So No problem there
    I do Not rub the Bezel like some people do slot machines, So there is no fingerprint problem

    They do Not make me coffee in the morning so that is a Major problem
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  • IceDread - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    The price is too high for what you get.

    Looking at the input lag alone however makes this monitor not acceptable. 2 frames of input lag.. !
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  • cheinonen - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    I'm away from home and will update the article when I return, but some notes from Nixeus after the review went up:

    - A few monitors in the initial batch suffered from the "no backlight below 19" issue I mentioned. For anyone with this, Nixeus will RMA it and repair the issue, and so I will have mine fixed after I return and then update the appropriate sections. This also makes it clear that my display was straight off the line and not hand-picked as well.

    - The packaging has been updated since I received mine. The stand was updated late in production, and so custom packaging couldn't be completed in time it seems, but now it is packed better.

    - The price of $500 is being set by the reseller due to current demand, but will drop back down to the $430 original price in the future once production catches up with demand.

    I'm also going to mention that lag on a 27" is going to be an issue for testing going forward until I find something else to test with. Right now I can get the response time measured, but not the lag time correctly when using the scaler. Since I have to use a CRT to measure it, and the CRT is only 1920x1200 at the maximum, that presents an issue. I keep the aspect ratio the same as the display under test (16x9 or 16x10) but the LCD has to scale using this method. I would assume you would get faster results with the native resolution, but that's just a guess unfortunately.
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  • Sabresiberian - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    These aren't actually out yet - first run is expected to be in the hands of those who pre-ordered first week in October - but they are selling their base model for $319.99. That includes a 1-year warranty. Shipping is extra, unlike the Korean models, but for continental U.S. buyers it's less than $30 so not bad at all. Their panels are "A" grade, not "A-".

    http://www.overlordcomputer.com/Default.asp

    Supply is limited and you need to pre-order to be sure to get one at this point. I have one of the "Pixel Perfect" and "Overclockable" monitors ordered which I should get mid-October or so.

    I'm hoping you guys at Anandtech will test these Overlords out. It would be great for you to run an overclocked one @ 120Hz and see what you get.

    ;)
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  • Jjoshua2 - Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - link

    I'm interested in these overloard and catleaps too. I'll second that Anandtech needs to get their hands on one and review it. Reply
  • BrazenRain - Friday, September 21, 2012 - link

    "tolerances might not be as" LOW, not high. Reply
  • DanNeely - Sunday, September 23, 2012 - link

    How much would a good 3rd party stand for one of these or the cheaper Korean panels cost? Reply
  • AbRASiON - Monday, September 24, 2012 - link

    I do not buy products that are defective by design, no sirree I do not. Reply
  • kneedeep248 - Saturday, March 02, 2013 - link

    Hi,

    I enjoy this monitor, but I have not figure out how to set the default display. For now, it default to HDMI. I can change it in the OSD menu to DVI which I use for my computer, but it always default back to HDMI. Help. I have done a google search but did not find my answer, so I am trying here.

    Thanks,
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