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  • lowlymarine - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    The chart on the first page says the Galaxy Nexus has an "ARM Mali-400" for the GPU, but I'm fairly certain it actually uses a PowerVR SGX540. Reply
  • lowlymarine - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Also, no version of the Galaxy Nexus has a MicroSD slot, to my knowledge. And on page 7:
    "from an optical standpoint it comes with what I believe is a 4P (4 plastic elements) system with a focal length of <focal>mm."
    Not sure what's going on there.

    Excellent review overall though. I have to agree on the button layout, it's a shame they didn't use the ICS default buttons ans instead chose to stick to a legacy menu button.
  • VivekGowri - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Missed a couple of things when I was switching it from SGS2 to the Galaxy Nexus. The focal length is 3.2mm - I just put in a placeholder when I was writing and simply forgot to put in the value when the review went live. Reply
  • Skidmarks - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    It seems to have very capable hardware but is truly a dreadful looking thing IMO. Reply
  • Belard - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Agreed... then again, look at it this way. When a touch-screen device, such as a phone is made - everything is made around the screen. Right? That doesn't leave much room for much of anything else. Other than the size, thickness, materials, placement of buttons. If you GO BACK in time in the days of candy-bar, sliders, flip-phones - someone like SONY alone had about 60 different phones on the market at once time. Now SONY has about a dozen active smart phone designs (almost all are rectangle with curved corners) - some are quite attractive. But few are available - or they are at the SONY STORE at full price. at&t only sells 1 SONY phone. (I don't consider SONY because their track record with Android is sub-par at this time and their love for those rubber covers over the USB port which I have to fight to remove)

    You had different colors, different shape of buttons, different size screens. Remember the days of the LG Chocolate?

    The required touch-screen kill design ideas. But looking at MC/ Samsung / SONY and NOKIA - there are style DNA that can still be applied to the shape. SONY's style tends to make the phone bulkier than it should be.
  • Mike0 - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Also, the International One X has 32GB NAND, not 16GB unless you're referring to the Snapdragon S4 variety which would be useless in this comparison :P Reply
  • Mike0 - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    And it's screen is Super LCD2, if you're including technical terms like SAMOLED. Reply
  • Mike0 - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Also also, (last one I promise :P) the latest 4.0.4 update for the One X International dramatically improves it's scores in BrowserMark (Some people are getting 125000+) and Vellamo (Over 2000 now) and probably more benchmarks so it may be worth updating your results. Reply
  • VivekGowri - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Yeah, I copied the table over from another review and missed a few things when I was changing them. Missed the GPU/SD card thing when I changed from SGS2 to SGN, and the NAND when I changed from One X (AT&T) to One X (Intl.) Should be fixed now though. Reply
  • arnoudw - Thursday, August 30, 2012 - link

    The update to 4.0.4 also drastically improved battery life. Here are some tests: Reply
  • TheJian - Wednesday, September 05, 2012 - link

    I'm not sure any of these benchmarks even matter. It's kind of like benchmarking office and how fast it waits on me to type in word. Until they start benchmarking ACTUAL games (which is the only way I know how to judge one vs. the other and my fun on them out to a tv :)), the only other interesting thing is battery life.

    I can't play sunspider (it's not a game last I checked), have no interest in linpak etc. I want to know how they perform when output to TV over hdmi and using my xbox360 controller to have some fun. Consoles days are numbered, but I guess they can breathe easy until we start getting some real benchmarks that actually tell us something. The same can be said about bandwidth memory tests on desktops etc. All pointless accept to prove your stuff is operating correctly. I can't have fun or get any work done running sandra benchmarks ;) So who cares? I can't wait for a GAME mobile phone benchmark (I mean a real game, not some 3dmark crap for phones). Fraps for phones? :) SeeMeGaming? As Vivek already said, pretty much anything runs fine on all the latest phones. So gaming will be the differentiators.
  • piroroadkill - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    One thing: I wish manufacturers would stop using Tegra 3 in phones.
    Use Dual core Krait, and increase the size of the battery... and then we're talking.
  • krazyfrog - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Your weather widget is showing Seattle weather but your network ID is Airtel. It seems you are based out of India. :) Reply
  • krazyfrog - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Never mind. Commented before I saw the camera page. Reply
  • rocketbuddha - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    The picture of the temple seems to be the Madurai Meenakshiamman temple. Reply
  • VivekGowri - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Thillai Natraja Kovil in Chidhambaram. Reply
  • Belard - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Ya still get slapped anyway... :)

  • VivekGowri - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Screenshots/images taken at different times, so some happened while I was in India, some after I got back to Seattle :) Reply
  • jramskov - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    LG doesn't exactly have the best track record in that regard... Reply
  • cserwin - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    As a G2X owner, I would say that you will never see an update.

    The G2X has soured me on Android completely. It's pushed me into community supported ROMs just to have some semblance of a functional smart phone. And bless their hearts, but the community support for this phone has been marginal - soured by poor driver support from NVIDIA and LG.

    This stuff is sold in the U.S. on 2 year commitments. But the manufacturers and carriers aren't committed 5 minutes to this hardware.

    Really, how much research should I need to do before I purchase a smartphone with a decent feature set and expect it to work? It is complete bullshit the level of quality and consistency in the Android ecosystem, and LG wears the crown for putting lipstick on a pig.

    This phone will never be updated. And it will fail you weekly.
  • SpaceRanger - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Same here.. Fellow G2X owner and I will NEVER get another LG product again. Reply
  • VivekGowri - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Yeah, I had a G2x for a long while. Gave it to my brother, so no longer my headache. The software on that phone was literally never finished. That's what the problem was, and that's why it was so ridiculously buggy. I think the O4XHD will get the 4.1 update at some point, but definitely nothing after that. Reply
  • Myrandex - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Hey there windows Phones were / are pretty well supported! Their launch Quantum is supopsed to be getting the 7.8 upgrade, its just a shame that they have been pretty quiet on that front too. I knew a bunch of people that bought the Quantum here in the U.S. Reply
  • Myrandex - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    their* Reply
  • VivekGowri - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    That's because Microsoft is doing the updating, not LG's software engineers. Reply
  • Lepton87 - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Aren't you a little contradicting yourself? First you say "Now with all that out of the way, I think my flagship phone recommendation for most consumers is still the One X." and then "
    In real life, I prefer the O4X HD - the elegance of LG’s software package, in my book at least, has a bigger impact on my day to day usage of the phone than the hardware polish of the One X or the GPU horsepower of the S3. In my personal rankings, the O4X HD and One X are almost even, with the O4X coming out just ahead, and the S3 is a definite third."

    So you actually prefer LG but think than you are unlike most consumers and thus ONE X will be better for them?
  • VivekGowri - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Essentially. The HTC is without question a better phone - better design, better screen, better camera. But honestly, I enjoy using the LG more, simply due to the software. It's essentially the same rationale behind me sticking to a Galaxy Nexus when the hardware has been outstripped on T-Mobile by the One S and S3. It's a purely personal preference, and if you don't have an issue with Sense 4, then there's no real reason to not get the One X. Reply
  • MDme - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    it is a rectangle with rounded corners! Reply
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  • Spunjji - Thursday, August 30, 2012 - link

    (But seriously, it's OK, the radius of the corners is wrong. Because that is somehow relevant and can totally be patented.) Reply
  • Belard - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    "The hardware button layout is dead set perfect; the power button and headphone jack are at the top and the micro-USB port is centered at the bottom, just as God intended them."

    That is an opinion, not a statement of fact. Its a preference that works for you - but doesn't mean it'll work for others. By all means - the button arrangement should be mentioned for reviews. Also, I didn't know that God had a cellphone preference... :)

    When I was deciding on my next phone. It was a toss up between the HTC One X / SGS3 (Nokia 800 briefly) and even the Sony Xperia Ion (Which looks good, has a good texture - but feels odd). I simply can't stand touching the glossy back of the SGS3, its finger print-hell, it looks cheap because it is cheap. The HTC One feels good overall, the sticking-out camera lens is somewhat stupid, but its a great feeling and looking phone otherwise. 1st phone I noticed with a message light (before I found out most ICS phones have this feature). The physical HOME button on the SGS3 is also a selling point.

    Then at the store I notice something with the HTC One. Besides the USB connector is in the way when charging and using the phone (never perfect anyway) the Power button is at the TOP. I tried out the phone with using that power button - since it'll always be used to wake up the thing.

    HATE IT! That alone changed my mind with the HTC One.

    Then on this site, they previewed the Motorola Atrix HD. I liked how it looked. Then I had a chance to try it out in the store and use it. The power button is on the side. And I'm good for the headphone jack and USB ports on top (as on my Galaxy S1 phone), The phone feels great in the hand (texture) - NO FINGER prints. The various types of materials on the side feels good, looks good. Having the top of the phone bigger means you'll know quickly which side is up. It doesn't have an "buttons" as it uses ICS on-screen menu buttons for navigation. Cool thing about hat, if the phone is upside down, the UI flips correctly - it doesn't matter. (okay, when talking to someone - yes).

    The HTC One has been reduced to $100, same as the Atrix HD - but it includes a car-dock which charges and holds the phone and put it into a GPS mode. It'll also tag your car location when you remove your phone in case you forget where you parked. The screen on the Atrix HD looks better than the SGS3... the camera is sub-standard compared to any other ICS phone on the market. (sigh) - but my main camera is real, no a big deal. A cool feature included is that I have the VOL button set as a shutter button. (handy!) Its battery isn't as good, but better than phones form 2 years ago.

    (I gather Atrix HD won't get a full review, oh well... I value phone reviews here than most other places since this site compares against other devices on your various standards)

    Its like when you responded above with "But honestly, I enjoy using the LG more, simply due to the software. It's essentially the same rationale behind me sticking to a Galaxy Nexus" (Even thou the HTC One is better). For me, the HTC One wouldn't work for me... even thou its better in almost every way over the Atrix HD. A business partner needed a new phone, I had him try out the 3 phones (HTC / SGS3 / Atrix HD) - The power button location nixed the HTC, he liked how the SGS3 looked.

    Thanks for the review... and using it for real. Hope LG does well with this phone, more competition = better phones. (And apple's lawsuits is why I won't buy Apple)
  • Myrandex - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    USB port on the bottom is the proper spot? Not in my book. I enjoy sitting my phone in my cup holder in my truck, and with it sitting upright, having the USB port on top makes much more sense then being on bottom. Otherwise it would be upside side down. And when I've used headphones in a situation like that, having both the headphone port and USB port on top is perfect.

    Power button on the side took a little used to using, but I don't mind it there.
  • Belard - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Yep... that is how it is in both of my cars. I drop the phone in a side pocket or cup holder and all is good. Reply
  • powerarmour - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Have to say the Galaxy Nexus scores need updating to JB level, I'm getting 1480ms in Sun spider and 1665 in Vellamo :)

    It might be getting on a bit in some areas (GPU...), but I still think its the best overall Android phone out there.
  • Skiddywinks - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    "Thus arrives the Optimus 4X HD, the flagship of LG’s new lineup, a device goinghead to head with the international versions of the HTC One X and Samsung Galaxy S III"

    Wow, I thought AT didn't recognise an international SIII even existed, given the lack of anything to do with in on this site.

    /butthurt waiting for IS3 review
  • fixxxer0 - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    Any numbers for that phone, specifically the LTE??

    It was said when the first round of reviews were being done that no VZW phone was had yet... but its been a few months now.
  • Bob-o - Wednesday, August 29, 2012 - link

    > Having buttons appear only after they’re touched sounds counterintuitive,
    > but you learn quickly to just stab in the general area of the button you’re
    > going for. If you’ve ever used an Android device before, it comes pretty naturally.

    You can get used to anything, but it is still a bad design choice. Every "normal" user I know who has encountered this hates it. Including my neighbor who just bought her first smartphone, an LG Lucid. She was going to return it because of this, as she didn't think anyone could design something so stupid. She thought the phone was malfunctioning.

    Personally I think if you are going to have dedicated "buttons" then they should be, you know, friggin' buttons. But then I'm old and not onboard with a lot of the junk they're slinging these days. . .
  • Origin64 - Thursday, August 30, 2012 - link

    This is 2012. Why is anyone still using hardware buttons on phones? Seriously. Android has already changed the guidelines for button layouts, what, 2 or 3 times in the past 2 years? Having the software buttons that are now the rule for ICS and up would give any device more flexibility and would also add to the look of it. If LG has tried so hard to minimize the bezels, why include a strip at the bottom that they could've left out just as easily.
    Also, I actually like the power button on the side of a device, that way I can actually turn my phone off with one hand without getting carpal tunnel.
  • Origin64 - Thursday, August 30, 2012 - link

    And secondly, while I'm on the point, why hasn't any manufacturer released a phone with Jelly Bean yet? I'm running a custom based on it on my S1, and the UI is smoother on my 2 year old phone than it is on a brand new S3. I think being the first guys to have a phone that is released with JB in stores would be a significant competitive advantage. Android with an actually smooth UI, why, that's unheard of! Reply
  • powerarmour - Thursday, August 30, 2012 - link

    This is exactly why I'm still using a Galaxy Nexus, once you use Jellybean, you can't really go back!

    JB even runs superb on a Nexus S, very smooth indeed 95% of the time (with the odd dodgy transition), but how old is that phone now?, I'd still rather have that than any ICS based phone, no matter the hardware inside.
  • Death666Angel - Thursday, August 30, 2012 - link

    Why does it belong there? In my opinion it is counter intuitiv to the way I put the phone back in my pocket. It is usually upside down in my pocket when I am not listening to music because that is how my hand can most easily put it there after I hold it in my hand. Now, when I listen to music via ear plugs I always have to change my grip before putting it away, so that the ear plug is not getting bent or pokes my thigh or something. Very annoying but it seems to become the standard and apparently some people like it, but I habe never seen an explanation for it. Reply
  • JimmiG - Thursday, August 30, 2012 - link

    LG really need to improve their support for me to consider them again. The Optimus 2X has *still* not been updated with ICS. First it was going to come out in Q2, then Q3, then LG said the update had been pulled and wouldn't be released at all. The latest word is that it will at least be released for Korean customers, but maybe not worldwide.

    Meanwhile, Nvidia refuses to release the Tegra2 drivers needed for third parties like CyanogenMod to release a fully functioning custom ROM.

    Of course, the Optimus 4X is already running a current version of Android, but what happes in a year and a half when ICS/Jelly is no longer the latest and greatest?
  • manik. - Thursday, August 30, 2012 - link

    Good one from LG. The UI is, indeed, good. Reply
  • mosu - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link

    After installing Android apps on a high variety of devices, a specific range and mainly no multimedia related I've come to the conclusion that Tegra 3 sucks.Could someone better informed than me provide a link for existing products with A15 , preferably OMAP or Exynos chips inside? Reply
  • Barnassey - Friday, August 31, 2012 - link

    You need to correct the maxximum size for micro sd on the GS3. It can take up to a 64GB card. Reply
  • subscrive - Sunday, September 02, 2012 - link

    LG lost its way when they announced that they wont support upgrade to ICE for some of their models.

    All these new models will not help. Only competition blunder can.

    Its different.

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