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  • Chaitanya - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    I am wondering how many people actually use floppy drive in this day and age when OS can install RAID drivers off a USB thumb drive and motherboards can flash bios even without having a CPU installed. Reply
  • shabby - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    How else will people make floppy music?
    Now wheres my printer port!
  • SlyNine - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    Thanks man, made my day! Reply
  • MonkeyPaw - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    That is awesome. Seems like something at the end of a Portal game. Reply
  • anirudhs - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    There used to be a time when booting into Linux was only possible using a floppy drive. Reply
  • CharonPDX - Thursday, May 24, 2012 - link

    There used to be a time when booting into *ANY* OS was only possible using a floppy drive.

    Heck, Windows XP required a floppy drive to load storage drivers if you weren't using a supported storage controller. (Which could be worked around if you were really dedicated, but for the average home user...)

    But since Windows Vista, we have no legitimate reason for the floppy drive to be internal as opposed to USB.

    Many motherboard makers have a "legacy" motherboard available, that includes these things (plus serial and parallel ports,) for those customers that truly need them. But a gamer doesn't. I haven't *NEEDED* a floppy drive since at least 2006. Yes, I've *USED* one since, but a USB one works just fine for everything I've needed to use it for. Nearly the same for PATA. I can't think of any gamer that still has an PATA drive sitting around that they just *NEED* to use. Yeah, digging data off an old retired PATA drive is nice, but there are (SHOCK!) USB-to-PATA adapters that work just fine. (And since the absolute fastest PATA drives are barely equal to USB 2.0, the speed "hit" doesn't matter.)

    I have a vintage computer collection, and use PATA, SCSI, even ESDI hard drives; along with 1.44 MB floppies, and even all the way back to 5.25" single-sided floppies, on a regular basis.

    But I don't need support for any of them in my gaming PC. (Then again, I also bought the Abit AT7-MAX motherboard when it first came out, lacking PS/2, serial, and parallel ports when leaving them off was controversial. So maybe I'm just someone who is perfectly happy to ditch legacy on modern gear before others.)

    It would be one thing if most boards still had them, but they don't. I don't even get the inclusion of the PS/2 port on many "gaming" boards these days. Does anyone still use a PS/2 keyboard or mouse on their modern "gaming" system? Haven't all gamers moved on to new fancy laser mice? (Or whatever the fad-of-the-minute is.)
  • DanNeely - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    when all the previous generation of boards yanked pata/floppy support there were enough people sending protest letters to convince most of the mobo makers to add it back for at least a few models.

    Personally I suspect they would've been better off jointly designing a pata/floppy pcie 1x card for the legacy device brigade.
  • Lazlo Panaflex - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    Asrock has included IDE and floppy connectors in various boards since the Dual-VSTA days...this is nothing new. Plus, some people still have decent IDE stuff laying around (i.e. DVD burners). Some older versions of Ghost run off a floppy. Reply
  • SlyNine - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    The reason I bought the board was because AsRocks name is a much better commodity then it was back in the A64 days. I bought it because I AsRocks name had proven itself, and I needed a motherboard with a hella lot of HDD ports. This build has been on 24/7 and up for weeks at a time before rebooting for 6 months so I'm glad I got the motherboard afterall. All the Fatality 1 did was make me not want it. But again needed the 10 HDD ports.

    I don't care about the Fatality 1 on the board at all. Used to play a ton of FPS's and I'm very very good at them. To bad I moved to a place with crappy internet, and was forced to buy a LCD. Makes all the difference in the world!
  • AssBall - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    So you moved somewhere with crappy internet and need 10 drives spinning all the time on an ATX board... because that's not pointless, inefficient, or unrealistic at all.... Reply
  • SlyNine - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    It's not pointless at all. Because you don't know wtf you're talking about or what I use my stuff for. Reply
  • f4phantom2500 - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    clearly you're looking for a flame war, noting twice that you needed to use a fuckload of hard drives without stating why, then jumping some guy's shit when he points out the impracticality of it, again without stating why...but don't worry man i'm sure you're too busy saving the world with your 10 hard drives and shitty internet to be bothered to explain your master plan to a simpleton like assball or myself. Reply
  • SlyNine - Saturday, May 26, 2012 - link

    LOL whatever you say. Like we all have a choice on where we live or our ISP. So somehow because I don't share details of my setup with you im instigating a flame war. Weird logic.

    If anything you're adhominem attack is instigating some flame war.

    I have a media server...seems like kind of a DUH statement, as thats the most likely thing someone would use that many HDDs for. I take blu-rays (about 250 so far), demux and remux them in to MKVs and I have about 2 TB of lossless music. Plus I have a lot of shows. It makes sense, since I have a crappy internet and streaming isn't practical, not that I want someone to control my media anyways.
  • DJMiggy - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    My LCD makes my crappy internet better as well.... Wait WHAT? Reply
  • Dark_Eternal - Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - link

    I'm pretty sure he meant that he doesn't play FPS games online anymore because his Internet connection is slow and LCDs are too laggy for him. Even though he did sound really angry. :P Reply
  • SlyNine - Saturday, May 26, 2012 - link

    Yea, it doesn't make me happy lol. Reply
  • SlyNine - Saturday, May 26, 2012 - link

    Wait you got "My LCD makes my crappy internet better as well.... " out of "To bad I moved to a place with crappy internet, and was forced to buy a LCD."?

    Seems pretty clear, I use to have a good internet and good CRT, but because I had to sacrifice both of them my gaming suffered.
  • SlyNine - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    nt. Reply
  • LeftSide - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    Thanks for the post times! This will be such a great benefit when I decide to upgrade my HTPC. Plus, shining light on post times gives MB manufactures incentive to increase performance! Reply
  • ShieTar - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    "One interesting novel setting that ASRock now have is the ‘Dehumidifier Function’."

    Is there any justification why this is labeled as dehumidifier? Is this supposed to be relevant for people with leaky water cooling systems that run up a significant relative humidity inside their cases? Without a source of humidity inside the case, there is no reason why the air that was pulled in at room temperature should suddenly have a higher humidity after cooling down to room temperature again.

    Or is this setting still exactly as useless as it was a few years back when some company tried to sell it as an "overheating at switchoff" protection?
  • kevith - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    Yeah, that struck me as well. Reply
  • scaramoosh - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    I wont buy anything branded by that loser who hasn't really competed since 2005. Reply
  • Iketh - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    someone sounds bitter lol

    haters gonna hate!
  • Friendly0Fire - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    I wouldn't call him a loser, but I too would rather like the Fatal1ty crap toned down a bit. I've never seen him play, I actually don't give a damn about him, so his likeness appearing on products that I otherwise could want to buy feels more like excessive branding than anything else.

    I can see why he's on them, of course: he did a lot of firsts and his nickname is marketable (it's got a bit of a "leetspeak" feel, which apparently appeals to a certain audience, it's "edgy" but still family-friendly, etc.). As much as I respect Starcraft players, I don't think NesTea or Stephano-branded hardware would sound good.
  • Reikon - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    I've always wondered if Fatal1ty branding actually convinced anyone to buy something. It usually just drives me away since it seems more like a branding gimmick for something that can't stand on its own. Reply
  • Camikazi - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    That is like asking if Michael Jordan branded shoes, or Tony Hawk branded skateboard ever prompted someone to buy them. The answer is easy, OF COURSE IT DOES, there are always people who don't know enough about things that go for celeb branded items because the celebs endorsed it. They don't know or care enough to find out that there are cheaper parts that are as good or better out there they just want the name. Reply
  • Matt355 - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    Thought I was the only one that felt that way. Reply
  • FozzyofAus - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    I also don't see the point of an IDE or Floppy port.

    How about a review of the uATX version of the board? I'm not convinced that many people really need a full ATX board anymore.
  • iamkyle - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    Seriously Jon? You "consultations" with manufacturers lead you to add long gone legacy floppy and IDE?

    Somebody PLEASE make me an enthusiast board with barebones I/O - USB only. Let me choose my NIC & my sound MYSELF. As a TRUE enthusiast would.
  • jabber - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    Exactly a real hardcore gamers board would be stripped of everything not required to just get the PC up and running.

    Then you would have a board with the minimum of traces and junk on it for the best performance. No fat at all. Then add just the hardware you need and nothing else.
  • Matt355 - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    I hear you, I have a full size ATX case but have started buying Micro ATX Motherboards to avoid junk I don't want. If your running a SSD and a 3TB drive drive as a gamer your not looking for 10 SATA ports, your not running your video card off PCI slot or your hard drives off IDE. you probably don't even need an optical drive so why would you want a Floppy drive. Reply
  • fausto412 - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    I met the guy last year at an event, he was there to support ASRock. To start off a review of a product by being a hater is just sad. I have own Fatal!ty branded sound cards and Headsets. Never once did it bother me. Fatal!ty was the guy living the dream, no different than playing still wish you was MJ for just a second. Don't hate congratulate! Reply
  • madmanjasper - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    In fairness he seemed to be using his experience to draw a comparison between marketing in different regions. Not blind hate. Reply
  • shin0bi272 - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    he's living the dream of dropping out of college and living in his parents basement and being one of the only people to win prize money while they were still paying people to compete. When they tried to make competitive video game playing a "sport" no one wanted to watch and it floundered.

    Please also note all the games he played (after practicing 8-12hrs a day mind you) had no recoil in the weapons. Games like pain killer and UT3 which are fun but have relatively low skill involved in racking up kills... you just spray and pray... and for a short time in the early to mid 2000's youd get paid.

    Now he spends his entire day running around getting companies to put his face on their hardware and add useless features (anyone remember the 64mb of audio ram on his version of the first x-fi?) to them and jack up the price so he can make millions. And you compare him to MJ? Not to mention the horrible use of the english language in doing so. A kid who sits on their butt playing video games is not an athlete they are an occupy wall street member.
  • atticus14 - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    lol @ games that lack recoil involve less skill

    so i suppose you would be a complete boss at a game like Q3 then since its so easy with no recoil. I guess you fail to realize that games like UT and Q3 faded from the spotlight because they were too damn hard for the majority of people as veterans constantly wiped the floor with them as noobs barely managed to put a point on the bored if not go into the negatives (UT was not AS harsh but you failed to mention Q3 which made Fat's name). They made it a hair easier with Quake Live's matchmaking but being "too hard" is still the reason why it has a small community; feel free to try, just dont get over confident in the noob tier
  • Lord 666 - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    Just like the Fatl1ty name was an albatross for Abit, ASRock has lost touch its roots and more importantly relevant features. Reply
  • shin0bi272 - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    When are people going to stop giving this dbag money to put his ugly face and retarded gamer tag on their hardware? No one gives a damn about this guy and yet people keep paying him to put his name on their stuff and overcharging us for it. Reply
  • kevith - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    Not his biggest fan, are you? Reply
  • prophet001 - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    ^^ Creepers gonna creep Reply
  • jabber - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    ....was take a full featured ATX board and then they put a custom heatsink on it and some custom decals.

    Job done.

    Should have taken maybe two weeks to sort out. No real product plans went into this product.

    What's the non Wendelised SKU for this board?
  • Senti - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    Hell yes to IDE port. It was very frustrating to find on my new motherboard no IDE but "great" SATA 6 was there. Marvell, 2 SATA 6 ports on single PCI-E 2.0 line. Who sane would use that instead of integrated Intel RST plain SATA 3? IDE controller would be way, way more useful.

    The same story with PCI slots on new boards: we get 0 PCI and 7 PCI-E. But hey, if you plug something in slot X then Y won't work, or if this 1x slot is used then that 4x would become 1x. How about providing fully supplied (or at least more supplied) PCI-E ports and filling space left with PCI?
  • hechacker1 - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    Yeah I like the IDE port, even if I'm going to rarely use it. They might as well shrink the header and give us a breakout cable to save space.

    I guess with USB 3.0, they could just give us an IDE to USB cable and solve the problem.
  • mapesdhs - Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - link

    This is why I kept buying Asrock boards, the slot layout and choice was excellent,
    eg. the P55 Deluxe is really good (I have several). Loved the 3-slot spacing for
    SLI/CF, has floppy/IDE (I use SAS RAID cards which usually need a floppy for
    BIOS/fw updates, and I was carrying over an IDE DVDRW), good price. Infact I
    didn't think Asrock's P67 boards were as good as the P55 Deluxe.

    The exception is my P67 board, an ASUS Maximus IV Extreme, because I got it for
    a very low price refurb, otherwise I would likely have bought a Z68 Extreme4.

  • silverblue - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    ...ATi logo on the board adjacent to the top PCI port. Reply
  • IanCutress - Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - link

    We actually see that on a lot of boards still. Perhaps it's time for a design update :)

  • hardslime - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    "There are six fan headers on the board – the CPU socket has two fan headers above the top heatsink, one 4-pin and one three-pin, and two above the first PCIe x1 slot (both are three pin). Other fan headers on board are at the bottom, where we find two three-pin chassis headers."

    One of the chassis headers is a 4-pin. I own this board, you can also see it in some of the pictures.
  • Matt355 - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    They should remove the Gamer tag and brand this as what it is, a Home Server Motherboard. 10 SATA ports, IDE, Floppy, lots of fan headers, PIC slots. Not what most Gamers are looking for but it still might sell to the home server crowd. Reply
  • faster - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    Gamers are hardcore competitive. There is no way I'm going to copy the setup of someone I want to beat. I'm going to do my research and build a better system to try and squeeze out those extra framerates to give me the edge.

    I build a lot of systems and I have never bought a "Wendel" component and I probably never will unless it clearly beats the competition, something I have never seen from a Wendel component.
  • ocyl - Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - link

    The fact that ASRock Fatal1ty Z77 Professional has built-in IDE and floppy connectors is one of the primary reasons why I will purchase this motherboard rather than the others in the same price range. Sure, I may never need to use these connectors again after the next system migration, but if/when I ever do in the future, I won't have to spend any additional money on expansion cards, nor will I need to allocate any PCI (Express) slot or USB port for them.

    On the other hand, I would have liked to see dual-link DVI, DisplayPort, and D-sub, or at least dual-link DVI and DisplayPort, instead of DisplayPort and HDMI, video output connectors on this motherboard. I have invested a lot of money in professional-grade monitors, and I am not going to swap them out simply because they are equipped with DVI connectors. Passive DisplayPort-to-DVI and HDMI-to-DVI adapters can only output single-link DVI signals.
  • jigglywiggly - Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - link

    i have better aim that fatal1ty

    i have a frag of him somewhere, and every game i've played with him, my lg and rail accs are always better, 1.5x.

    I still want his stuff, he is p cool, and a great dueler.

    Wat u r describing is a lozer
  • borden5 - Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - link

    idk about you guy but i won't buy something that just because of a person image on it, it doesn't feel special about the board since whenever i think of my motherboard that guy pop up instead of something else, i'd rather prefer asrock sticker on it than this crap. Reply
  • kam24 - Tuesday, May 22, 2012 - link

    I was looking through the Z77's on Newegg and this caught my attention because of IDE. I'll probably retire my old IDE hard drives along with my dusty old floppy (my current OS drive is SATA and I'll keep that for extra storage)...but I have two IDE optical drives with custom painted face plates. Nothing fancy but I'd like to reuse them. I was disappointed though with how the board fared in this review. When paying this much for a board I'd expect better power management and more polish. I don't care either way about the branding aspect.

    I'd just like to, as someone else mentioned, be able to take a bare bones board and add what I'd like. I wonder how much it would cost a company like MSI or Asus to offer that. I'd pay a little extra for a board perfect for me.
  • frankanderson - Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - link

    You guys know that they do sell IDE enclosures for old school drives and external DVDRW/BR devices right? I have a external usb floppy which I only use to boot up old motherboards that don't like to boot off USB thumb drive for some reason, or insert SCSI driver into floppy.. I just don't like having a floppy in my system anymore, I don't even have a DVD installed, the DVD is installed in my Home Server, I'll network whatever data over that I need, most of my games and apps are digital copies now, they are downloaded in a simple install package and left on my server, can't remember the last time I actually bought a software in a box (I think it was Windows 7 Ulitimate which was years ago)..

    Another thing is "Wendal" is a great gamer, a pro gamer and probably one of the greatest out there, sure it's a dream that someone can do what they love and still make a living from it.. I just don't believe that because it's "endorsed" by him, means that it's the best product..

    And where I am from, most "endorsed" products are just for publicity, us as consumers don't really believe they really use that product at home, even if it's free.. just my $0.02
  • smithrd3512 - Wednesday, May 23, 2012 - link

    Looks like I can put a 5.25" floppy on my new build with this board.

    Would give the kids something to ask me what the heck is a floppy.
  • redwolfe98 - Monday, June 04, 2012 - link

    i disagree that a floppy connector is not needed.. it is needed if you are running "windows xp", as i am..

    read how to flash the bios on a MSI motherboard, which doesn't have a floppy connector, when running win xp:

    "get yourself an external floppy drive with a USB connector; add files to floppy disk so that the external floppy drive is recognized (if it works as intended); if all goes well ie if the external floppy drive is recognized, proceed to flash bios..

    i remember when Dell quit shipping floppy drives.. lots of people weren't able to install the drivers that were needed for "sata", because they didn't have a floppy drive, and, consequently, had to switch things in the bios to "IDE compatibility"..

    i don't see any reason for not including a floppy connector, at least not until windows xp is dead and buried and long forgotten..

    i also like using PS/2 connections for mice and keyboards..
  • spencerp - Monday, June 04, 2012 - link

    I bought a gamer computer back in the day (the HP Blackbird 002 with Voodoo DNA). It has an optical drive with a proprietary LED/button AND it's IDE. It still plenty fast for the occasional optical drive use.

    Due to the ASRock motherboards supporting both the IDE and legacy CPU coolers, it has allowed me to continue to breath new life into my hardware and use my Blackbird (I have the older, but nearly identical z68 version).

    It's got pretty heavy branding which is extremely obvious out of the box. However, when the video cards and CPU cooler is installed, it's not as bad.

    It has been rock solid.
  • DreadStorm - Friday, May 02, 2014 - link

    Instead of bitching about WHY people use floppies and EIDE, why not just accept the fact that some of us still do - and leave it at that? There are several useful reasons to still use a floppy - or other obsolete removable media - the main one being that no one else has such drives, and what better way to secure data than to place it on a medium that no one else has? USB, Firewire, rack-mounted hard drives, all suffer the same similarity: Everyone has them, and can connect to and try to crack into them. With a floppy, Orb, Zip, Jaz, hell even a 5.25", no one uses anymore, so it makes the data that much more secure against hack attempts. "Old school" hardware still has a number of useful applications nowadays. Personally, I have about 12 different obsolete removable media drives connected to my Fatal1ty Z77 Pro (most via SCSI card). And all work like a champ - except for the floppy drive controller on this board, which had never worked since day one. For the floppies, I have an older P4 machine networked together for those, because of the floppy connector issue on this board.

    If they ever got it fixed, I wouldn't need the older machine anymore. But other than that, I have no intention of relieving myself of older media. If for nothing else than nostalgia and uniqueness.

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