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  • Impulses - Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - link

    The X1 looks great, shame ya got no pricing info... Reply
  • Belard - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Most likely the same price as the current X1. $1200 and up. Reply
  • mnasub - Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - link

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  • jalexoid - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    One kidney, please! Reply
  • Beenthere - Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - link

    If Lenovo offers a decent Thinkpad in the 11"-13" range with the AMD A10-4600M I might consider it though they tend to be at the high end price wise. Reply
  • Souka - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Why AMD? Reply
  • Belard - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Because an A10 or even other A chips are quite good.

    But Lenovo on uses AMD in their Edge series.
  • Nightdrake - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    AMD Trinity comes with AES-NI in all modells IIRC - highly beneficial for full harddisk encryption, which I consider very important as I would like to be sure my data cannot be stolen.
    Intel disables AES-NI in its entry level CPUs, so you have to either get a (lot) more expensive notebook or live with higher cpu load and thus shorter battery life.
  • Beenthere - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    To answer "why AMD" - Because Trinity does everything I need/want and cost hundreds less.

    In addition I don't knowingly support convicted criminal corporations who try to eliminate consumer choice and commit U.S. tax fraud.
  • silverblue - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Oh please. It's over, deal with it.

    A Trinity model or two would be nice; Lenovo have released a few Brazos and Llano models in the past so you can expect Trinity and Brazos 2.0 models over the coming months.
  • Beenthere - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    DENIAL doesn't change reality. People who vote with their wallet will be lining up for Trinity laptops - in fact they already are.

    Only a fool would pay more for less and support a criminal corporation destined on eliminating consumer choice - as the courts proved.

    DENIAL is your problem. Deal with it!
  • silverblue - Friday, May 18, 2012 - link

    I wasn't denying anything, I was telling you to GET OVER IT. There's a rather subtle difference between acknowledging something and sticking your fingers in your ears, shouting "la la la" all the time.

    In fact, had you been paying attention, on more than one occasion I have said that Intel got off damned lightly, even if AMD couldn't really make any more processors than they actually did and we'll be left in the dark as to how much money they did lose. The single biggest thing Intel could've done to hurt AMD was to bring out the Core architecture as it forced AMD to cut its prices and become far less profitable as a result.
  • damianrobertjones - Friday, May 18, 2012 - link

    The standard consumer doesn't understand simple computing terms let alone the difference between Intel and AMD parts Reply
  • ImSpartacus - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    I agree. An updated X130e would be wonderful.

    It can already cool a 17W CPU, so Trinity is possible.
  • PCTC2 - Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - link

    I like the look of this new lineup. I wish I could get a replacement for my aging T61 ThinkPad. The T430s looks like a nice option, though the X1 Carbon could replace my MBA.

    Also, "magnesium allow" should be "alloy".
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Curse my fat fingers! Okay, not really, but thanks for the edit. :-) Reply
  • hkai1015 - Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - link

    All of them look amazing, but does the T530 really have the option of getting a 1920x1200 panel? If so... Reply
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Nope, sorry. Old habit I suppose; it's 1920x1080 naturally -- gotta shave every penny, sadly enough. Reply
  • piroroadkill - Tuesday, May 29, 2012 - link

    See, this bugs me; 16:9 is wildly inappropriate for laptops - just look at the thick bezels top and bottom..

    Although it's of course vastly better than 1366x768, I don't want to see 1600x900.
    Either package the laptop smaller and give me 1440x900 or fit a 1680x1050 screen in there. Apple can do it, why can't anyone else?
  • Mumrik - Wednesday, May 16, 2012 - link

    I'd love to know more about the panel options on the X models. There's mention of an IPS and non-IPS model on the X230. That gives me hope the IPS version is a proper high res product. They've messed that part up in the past. Reply
  • Lifted - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    What will the difference be between the T430U and the X1? Was the T430U simply dropped in favor of the X1? Haven't heard anything about it since January, and it seems a bit redundant if the X1 is a 14" ultrabook. How many 14" ultrabook Thinkpad models would Lenovo produce? Reply
  • jalexoid - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    T430u became T430s. It's a continuation of their slim series in the business productivity line. Reply
  • Lifted - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Do you work for Lenovo, or have a link where you got this info? There were demos of the T430U in January at CES, and the T430s was always a planned product as far as I know. It sounds like they just cancelled the T430U. The pics of it from CES are definitely not pics of a T430s. They are 2 different products. Reply
  • Drag0nFire - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    That keyboard looks like complete trash. Print screen between the alt and ctrl keys?!

    I can't wait for a full review!
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Oh, interesting... I didn't notice that. I love how we lose keys that many people actually use (hello little context menu key that's between my right control and alt keys!) but keep stuff that I haven't used in ages. Insert? Unless you're talking about Shift+Insert for paste (which I never use since Ctrl+V is easier to hit), I don't think I've used the Insert key in a decade or more. Reply
  • Visual - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Shift+f10 has been working for context menu from before I even had a keybard with a windows key, there is no need for a dedicated key for that, except for people with memory problems.

    Insert on the other hand is a must have for anyone that has ever used a text editor for work, for programming, or worked in a Linux console.
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Shift+F10 requires a lot more work to use than a single keypress. And what exactly do you use insert for in programming/Linux console? I've done both and still don't recall using Insert, except perhaps in some specific application like vi or something. Is there a way to map Shift+F10 to a key like the "Fn" key I wonder? For other keys I'd assume you could change the mapping, but Fn is such a specialized key that I'm not sure. Reply
  • erple2 - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Unfortunately, in a terminal, CTRL+V means "insert character representation of the next key I press". It's useful for things like "insert something to represent the TAB key" or "Backspace key" or "enter key". I use it all the time when I'm doing a mass search and replace (using a regular expression) to replace, say the ^M characters (CTRL+M) that appear on DOS formatted text when trying to read it in Linux/Unix.

    You can kind of think of it like an "escape" sequence.

    BTW, that's where "Shift+Insert" is actually useful - that inserts whatever you have copied in the buffer to the current line, like what "CTRL+V" normally does in documents. Working with pure text (specifically the "First 127 ASCII characters"), you don't normally have to worry about odd characters.

    I remember in the DOS prompt, you could add strange characters by typing "RightAlt+0xxx" to insert one of the 255 weird control characters. CTRL+V does something similar in the Linux console.
  • Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer - Saturday, May 19, 2012 - link

    The keyboard on the X1 Carbon looks to be very similar to the one on my X130e, which I think is really pretty good. I can get some pretty good speed on it, and the slight concavity of the key tops is a nice change from the totally flat key tops of my previous laptop (which was that near-universally reviled Acer keyboard that I didn't think was THAT bad.)

    I don't understand the decision to put the Print Screen key where they did. I like Print Screen, I use it, but they could have mapped it to Fn-P or something, like a number of other keys "missing" from the keyboard layout, and I'd have been happy. I used the context menu key a lot when I worked as a typist, but I don't find myself using it that much outside of editing Word docs, so I can live with its absence. Your mileage may vary, of course (and I like the idea of mapping it to Caps Lock; I may do that) but as far as actual typing goes...yeah. It's definitely decent.
  • ImSpartacus - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    I replaced caps lock with the menu key. Autohotkey to the rescue! Reply
  • gokusuperion - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    no Pause\Break key either. The W530 keyboard looks like a step back from the W520. Unless you'll need the newer Quadro cards, it might be a good idea to get a deal on a W520 as inventory winds down. Reply
  • Belard - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    The change with the keyboards for the entire Thinkpad family. Maybe even the Edge... which we can think of as the prototype for the keyboards they are rolling out.

    Quick rundown for others:

    Edge = Low-costs semi-consumer notebook line
    L = Low-end. Basic features. Don't get top end CPU/memory.
    T = The Mainline. Most options. TxxxS = Slim model for an extra $300. 8GB max.
    W = Workstation line: Quadro GPU, these looks just like T-series. 32GB max.
    X = Slim line or Tablet. Such as X1, X301, etc.
  • Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer - Saturday, May 19, 2012 - link

    You can use a function key combination for things like Pause and Break. They are Fn-P and Fn-B, respectively. Likewise, Fn-S, Fn-C and Fn-I for SysRq, Scroll Lock, and Insert. Reply
  • Old_Fogie_Late_Bloomer - Saturday, May 19, 2012 - link

    Heh, I should add that that's on my X130e. They may be different for other models, of course. I'm just saying that you can still have access to those functions. I just confirmed that Shift-Fn-I works the same as Shift-Insert on a regular keyboard, so for those who need it to paste, you're covered. Reply
  • Belard - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    WTF?! That's not so much of a big deal - its on the right side of the keyboard.

    But Lenovo is changing all their keyboards to ISLAND style? some of us prefer the OLD-STYLE keys. I admit I like the back-lit option (should be on ALL of them) - but I really like the current keyboard layout found on todays T420.

    I've studied the photos... I see more what they did. They streamlined and simplifed the keyboard, they've ditched the ThinkPad layout all together. But in todays world - or even the past 10 years, who needs or uses the SCROLL Lock or Pause break keys? With MS's plans on Windows8, they might have killed the Right-Menu key.

    They moved the Page up and down keys to the cursor pad (good idea, always hated the old stupid ones).

    I think the red trackpoint in the center is sucking up way to much key space on the G H and B keys... better to remove it. The Enter key should be blue. With all these RADICAL changes to the keyboard, why doesn't Lenovo MOVE the stupid CTRL key to the outside?!! Yes, there is an option in BIOS to switch the fn<>CTRL keys.

    I'd make the Right-Shift key smaller and stick the fn key on the far right side... its simply not used all that much.

    * I played with a 15" SONY notebook... its super thin top bends like its rubber. There is NO way to open or close it without severe flexing. Easily over an inch of flex... not sure how good that is for the LCD display.

    **PS: to learn more about that keyboard, read a review of the X1.

    Looks like they took out the LED light on the cover that shines on the keyboard... (Yes, I use it on mine) - I hope that ALL keyboards are back-lit.
    I'd have the CAPS lock key change a different color.

    Here is a review of the X1, while they don't talk about the keyboard - they gave it a good rating.

    There are slight changes between the X1 and the upcoming ThinkPad models. May include improve back-lighting.
  • jalexoid - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    "why doesn't Lenovo MOVE the stupid CTRL key to the outside"
    Because some of the most loyal customers are used to Fn being on the outside.
    If it bothers you, then you're not one of the loyal customers.
  • DukeN - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    IIRC they allowed the two keys to be switched via BIOS... Reply
  • bznotins - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Typing this on my X220. I love it, especially the keyboard.

    It looks like they have moved to the chicklet-style keyboard with the X230. Sigh.

    I was about ready to sign up for an X230 (would like the extra graphics punch) but I'm totally unwilling to give up the best keyboard I have ever had in a laptop.

    While it's nice they still have the IPS screen optoin, 768p sucks. SUCKS. My Dell 700m from ten years ago was 800p. Over ten years we can't get decent resolutions in an ultraportable?

  • noeldillabough - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    I too LOVE my x220 keyboard. They really should offer its anupgradebfor us old school Lenovo users. The giant escape and delete are just gravy. Reply
  • mabellon - Friday, May 18, 2012 - link

    <Eye twitch>

    It sounds to me like you're looking for NOT a Thinkpad...

    - Remove the trackpoint? Are you kidding or trolling? That's called an IdeaPad, or any other non-Lenovo consumer product.
    - Swap the Fn and Ctrl? Those of use surrounded by traditional Thinkpad keyboards have grown used to it. If you want, change it in the bios.
    - Scroll lock is used by people in Excel
  • Visual - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    The x230t seems like a nice tablet convertible, the screen and battery options seem a bit weird though. The lack of a dedicated GPU option is disappointing again, let's hope at least Fujitsu still have it in their alternative like in the last generation.

    And why can't they launch sooner... probably damned Intel's fault for the IVB delays.
  • Visual - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Why no news on the Yoga? Reply
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    None so far; Yoga as far as I know has always been intended to launch with Windows 8. So we're waiting on Microsoft for that one. Reply
  • Belard - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    The only real change I can see between the X1 and X1 Carbon is that the Gorilla Glass (glossy) was removed for Carbon. Many Thinkpad users HATE HATE HATE glossy screens.

    But looking at the bezel, it looks like the X1 Carbon has space for customers to choose the Gorilla glass option. Some have noted that it would be useful in some environments.

    Keyboard is slightly improved over the X1.

    Since they keyboard layout is EXACTLY the same for L/T/W/X - why not make them ALL back-lighted? Just stick in an option to turn the lights on or off.
  • ArteTetra - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    I think on the X230 there is a full-size DP, not mini-DP.

    I hope the new keyboard it's at least as good as the "old" one.

    Their drivers suck, the trackpad on my X220 is unusable for scrolling and other gesture and the middle button can only be used for click OR scroll. On Linux, everything works as it should. What a shame for a professional-grade notebook.
  • DukeN - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Hopefully the T430s screen quality is improved over the previous two generations.

    And also hope the x230 comes in better than 1366x768 res.
  • kwrzesien - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    Please stop making these cheap screens! My company will order 5,000 of whatever the lowest-spec T430 is available, including the cheapest/lowest-res screen possible. Only by moving the minimum up will I ever get a better laptop experience. Peace. Reply
  • Beenthere - Thursday, May 17, 2012 - link

    It's frustrating when they buy whatever is cheapest without actually checking the specs... or performance. Bean counters should be forced to use a chisel and stone tablet. <LOL> Reply
  • ArteTetra - Saturday, May 19, 2012 - link

    I don't think a 1366x768 resolution on a 12.5" screen is that bad. A higher resolution would maybe be nicer, but it's not necessary. Reply
  • jandy00 - Sunday, May 20, 2012 - link

    The laptop looks otherwise great, but the new keyboard layout is terrible.

    Lenovo might have forgotten that there's different 3 reasons people buy thinkpads:
    1). They like trackpoint
    2). They like the keyboard layout
    3). Someone else is buying it for them (i.e. it's a company laptop)

    Otherwise, they're just expensive laptops with medium performance, and average reliability.

    With the keyboard "update" they've killed reason #1 to get one.

    It's a shame.
  • randinspace - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    I'm probably too late to the party here, but just out of idle curiosity who would you take over Lenovo (or does your criticism only apply to their thinkpad line?) as far as laptops go? Reply
  • kenyee - Monday, May 21, 2012 - link

    Keep it close to the current W520's $1500 price and I'm in!

    Can't wait to see what those new Kepler GPUs do as well :-)
  • agent2099 - Wednesday, May 30, 2012 - link

    These look like some interesting products but overall it just seems like a bad time to buy a laptop with Windows 8 right around the corner. You would either lose out because you have to pay for the upgrade in OS, or your laptop will be lacking hardware features such as a touchscreen. Reply

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