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  • LeftSide - Saturday, March 17, 2012 - link

    Whenever you do a review on a Power Supply, is their any way you can get a retail version to check and make sure you are getting the same results? I just feel like if a company sends in a power supply to you, they are going to send the absolute best performing power supply they have. It might not always be reflective of real world results.
    Graphics cards and CPUs are different. The performance will be the same. Although I never trust the overclocking results. Again the company sending you the product is going to send the lowest voltage part they have, giving the review the best OC results possible. I wait to read the forums about how well they OC in real life.
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  • pc_void - Saturday, March 17, 2012 - link

    I agree. PSUs are too often cherry picked. Takes away from the review in the end. Reply
  • Martin Kaffei - Saturday, March 17, 2012 - link

    This PSU has no Japanese main capacitor as promised. So nobody checked this sample. Reply
  • ssddaydream - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - link

    While I agree that retail units will often differ from review samples, I disagree that CPUs and GPUs would be the same. Performance characteristics at identical clock speeds would be the same, but overclocking and thermal characteristics could differ significantly. Reply
  • AnnonymousCoward - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - link

    uhh, he said CPUs and GPUs are different. Reply
  • ssddaydream - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - link

    I am saying CPUs and GPUs vary largely. Reply
  • Swirlser - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - link

    The OP is saying CPUs and GPUs vary.

    OP: "Graphics cards and CPUs are different."

    ssddaydream: "I disagree that CPUs and GPUs would be the same."
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  • Just1Jay - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - link

    No, sir. ;- )
    I think you are being waaay too picky. ;- )
    Anyway, many reviews are done with manufacture demos which we hope are the same as the retail items. No matter what the component.
    Just my input.
    Jay
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  • Spacecomber - Saturday, March 17, 2012 - link

    I'm not familiar with this manufacturer. Do they have their own retail line (as do Seasonic and Fortron, for example)? What would some typical brands be (and maybe models) that make use of this company for the manufacturing their products. Looking at their web site, I get the impression that they make a range of components for the electronics industry, but I couldn't easily get any further specifics. (They are a Taiwanese company with much of their manufacturing done on the mainland.) Reply
  • Peanutsrevenge - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - link

    Try reading the article before asking questions that already answered in the article:

    "Sirtec (High Power) is the manufacturer of the Hive-series."
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  • DarkMatter93 - Saturday, March 17, 2012 - link

    There's a typo on the measurements page, last paragraph, first line.
    "while the weaker ouputs start to* high" -> too*
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  • Martin Kaffei - Saturday, March 17, 2012 - link

    Thanks a lot! Reply
  • Blibbax - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - link

    Also, last paragraph:

    "...an remarkable case design."
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  • The Ugly Truth - Saturday, March 17, 2012 - link

    http://www.change.org/petitions/anandtech-forum-en...

    Freedom of expression and freedom to have an online life outside of AT forums reach is all we ask.
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  • Iketh - Saturday, March 17, 2012 - link

    lol that's funny...

    I visited AT forums several years ago and had a horrible experience. I never returned. That's all you have to do. Why would you care enough to create a petition? In the long run, you're actually doing them a favor.

    I visit forums such as overclock.net and xtremesystems.org instead, and I contribute to xtremesystems DC teams.
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  • JSt0rm01 - Saturday, March 17, 2012 - link

    being banned for mentioning another website rubs people the wrong way. We only ask to be respected as readers of this website. Not to be pushed around to make a couple of moderators feel good about themselves. The limits imposed by the current moderation are not in place to help anandtech or its forums. The limits are imposed to help them secure the power they are looking for.

    When they decide to ban a website from being written to the forums because at that place are people who are critical not of anandtech but of the current moderation that is in charge of anandtech's forums then there is a problem and an abuse of power that Anand himself is probably unaware of.
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  • magnetar - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - link

    Regrettably, your petition does not contain enough information to make your case or explain your issues whatsoever. Frankly, it is pure innuendo, and provides nothing that would allow me to come to a conclusion about it's merits.

    In my experience reading this web site's forums, they certainly have not censored criticism of the reviewers, or any writers that I am aware of. While that does not seem to be the basis for your petition, that is the only example of editorial bias/non-bias I can think of. Please use the petition to make your case, and not the forum.
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  • Kristian Vättö - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - link

    Can you (or anyone, the word is free) email me at kristian[AT]anandtech[DOT]com with examples of unfair moderation? I'm not in charge of the forums by any means but I'm a moderator on another forum (MacRumors) so I would be very interested in seeing what's wrong. I can then discuss with Anand and the team about this and hopefully we'll be able to do something.

    And no, I'm not kidding you. If someone emails me, I promise that the word will be passed to Anand. I can't promise that any actions will be taken but I agree that the forums are not as good as they could be, and that's why I've mostly avoided them. I'll do everything I can to make the place better :-)
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  • bathotropic - Saturday, March 17, 2012 - link

    proteced is what exactly? I guess low quality articles get low quality reviews. Reply
  • AnnonymousCoward - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - link

    Your first sentence isn't a proper sentence!! What exactly are you trying to say??? Reply
  • ggathagan - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - link

    bathotropic is trying to say:
    "I'm too ignorant to realize that someone whose first language is not English has a higher chance of making a slight spelling mistake.
    Even thought the word is spelled correctly when used the second time in the same sentence, I have no life and want to convince myself that I'm superior to others by pointing out inconsequential errors."

    Translation: bathotropic is trying to say:"I'm an a$$hat who acts like a third-grader because I'm on the Internet."
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  • AnnonymousCoward - Sunday, March 18, 2012 - link

    Thanks for clarifying. Reply
  • benedict - Monday, March 19, 2012 - link

    This PSU is too expensive for what it's offering. Besides, ignoring the marketing, this is really a 450W PSU, not a 550W one.
    I'm curious what FSP has to offer in that market segment. They used to have really good low and middle-end offerings.
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  • Onus - Tuesday, March 20, 2012 - link

    Since Martin ran it up to 110% where it remained efficient and well in spec, and it did not choke, smoke, and croak, I'm not sure I understand why you are asserting that this is only a 450W PSU. Rosewill may have wrecked its PSU reputation a dozen years ago by selling junk, and the tech world has a long memory, but Rosewill seems to have cleaned up its act in recent years.
    The outright lie about the Japanese cap does concern me, but that could be a lie from Sirtec to Rosewill as easily as a lie from Rosewill to consumers; hopefully they can beat their supplier into submission on this one. Iirc, Sirtec was the OEM on some of OCZ's more questionable offerings, that started out well enough, but didn't hold up; this could be another like those.
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  • benedict - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    Quite simple really, 12V output is 456W, not 550. If you take a look at quality PSUs you'll see their 12V output is almost the same as the advertised wattage of the PSU. If I make you a PSU with 500W on the 3.3V line and 100W on the 12V line and mark it as 600W will you put it in any pc? Fact is, all modern power hoggers in a pc, the CPU and GPU both consume 12V and that's what mostly matters. If you make a PSU with 450W output on the 12V line then mark it as 450W, anything higher is misleading. Reply
  • benedict - Thursday, March 22, 2012 - link

    Also, Martin has just reviewed 2 more PSU's from Rosewill, note how their 12V output matches the power rating this time. Reply
  • thetrystero - Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - link

    Can you please elaborate on how you arrived at the 456 figure? Was it by a P=I*V calculation? I could not find that figure anywhere in the article. Reply
  • zero2dash - Monday, March 19, 2012 - link

    Being NewEgg's house brand and generally low priced, I can't say I'd trust EVERY Rosewill product out there, but they do have some that are nice and worth consideration.

    Recently I put together a system with one of their Green series PSU's after reading the Hardware Secrets review....was going to go with the RG530-S12 but then there was a promo on the RG630-S12 putting it cheaper so I went with that instead (fairly easy decision to make...more juice for less $). Anyway it's been a solid PSU and I've heard no complaints from my customer. IMHO it certainly beats the Corsair CX line of which I've had no luck getting one that didn't have coil whine (and therefore I've quit using them).

    Finding a reliable lower wattage PSU around the $50 range that isn't junk is getting hard.
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  • samuraid - Monday, March 19, 2012 - link

    Right at the start of the article: "In fact this is the frist time we test a PSU from this company"
    Frist -> First
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  • Ryude85 - Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - link

    This psu sells for $44.99 with free shipping on newegg, all the time. At that price, its the best bang for your Buck. Reply

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