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  • zinfamous - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    well, I hope it fixes my fonts that were completely broken with the auto-update of FF 9, several weeks back (I'm always slow to update). No fix available in FF< and no google-able solution that fixed my problem (all font issues seemed to be FF 3.x related).

    My solution: switched to Chrome.
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  • Obsoleet - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    I'm sorry. Reply
  • ViRGE - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    Oh God, not again! It seems like I just updated. Reply
  • ryedizzel - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    dont get me wrong i value active updates and improvements, but why the complete version changes every time? are the updates REALLY that radical? it feels like i was using v6 a couple months ago which seems no different than v10. it's sort of misleading. they should really append increments instead (ie 6.1, 6.2, 6.3 etc).... Reply
  • Spivonious - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    I agree. They should just drop the version number altogether if it's going to be meaningless. Reply
  • Tegeril - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    They're just doing what Google does with Chrome, and by Firefox 13 you wont know it's happening anymore. Reply
  • Aloonatic - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    But Chrome is on version 16, so how will Firefox catch them up and prove that they are better than them by having a higher version number if they get rid of version numbers all together?

    Everyone knows that the higher the version number the better the browser.
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  • dcollins - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    They're just numbers, why do people care so much? The whole point of the new release schedule is to get rid of the notion of "major" versus "minor" releases. The shorter, more predictable release cycle helps the developers deliver a higher quality product because they don't have to rush feature development to hit an arbitrary deadline for a "major" release.

    Your expectations of version numbers simply need to change with the times because this style of development is proving superior both for consumers and developers.
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  • inighthawki - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    It used to be a much bigger problem before this release since every major version change breaks addons unless they get updated. This was a huge issue when Mozilla decided that major version numbers would change, despite very little changes, which means small or otherwise unsupported addons would break every few weeks with a new update. Reply
  • bun77 - Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - link

    Actually each update so far has had huge changes.
    Memory usage got cut by like 300%
    browser speed has doubled in many areas
    and so on

    unless for you major version number change means UI change, which would be odd.

    Since FF4, FF has actually gotten very good, and that in 6 month time!
    With the old schedule you'd still be waiting FF5, and you'd probably get only half the features.
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  • cptcolo - Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - link

    In the real world, I only see Firefox 10 gobble up memory. I have 3.6 and 12 64-bit (Nightly). Firefox 12 gobbles up memory and fails to refresh images quickly when switching tabs. For all its gains in load times, the image problem has left me to use good old Firefox 3.6 most of the time.

    Don't believe me? Try out FF4 of later and open numerous tabs with large pictures and cycle through them, they fail to populate the screen. FF3.6 does not have this problem. Chrome is the worst offender.
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  • Malih - Thursday, February 02, 2012 - link

    Have you tried disabling GPU acceleration in Firefox 4 and up? There could be problem with GPU drivers and all that.

    I always disable GPU acceleration on my desktop as they tend to make the GPU fan spins at higher RPM since I'm overclocking.
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  • xytc - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    Since Firefox version 4 every new version that came out did bring an improvement over the old one. Firefox 9 was pretty fast and if you add No-Script to it it's even faster plus FlashBlock and Adblock plus. I've disabled as well all the Plugins except for ShockWave Flash and is way faster with all the plugins disabled, disabling Java plugins, Acrobat Reader, Microsoft Media Player and DRM did bring considerable speed boosts and the browser is way more snappier.
    Also some extensions may slow it down so it's better to use only a few of them the essential ones.
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  • RU482 - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    Geez, Firefox has more updates than Adobe Reader Reply
  • MartinT - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    "Firefox 10 Releases Today"

    Shouldn't this read either "Mozilla releases Firefox 10 Today" or "Firefox 10 [to be] released today", much like:

    "Firefox 10 is due to release today"

    should read "Firefox 10 is due to be released today"?
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  • longgoner - Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - link

    Absolutely. Maybe the author wanted a succinct and engaging title, but I'm glad to know that I'm not the only reader bothered by it.
    AnandTech, I've been a reader for several years now, and I appreciate your content and valuable opinions very much. Keep up the good work! But please improve your style a bit. Mind the transitive/intransitive verb (ab)usage here. Thank you.
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  • Andrew.a.cunningham - Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - link

    why don't you mind YOUR FACE :-D

    Reading a couple of my other pieces, I realize that my use of the word "release" as a verb is pretty fluid - it just doesn't happen to be a pet peeve of mine, so I don't really watch out for it (on the other hand, I went way out of my way to avoid the redundancy of "ESR release"). I'll leave this article as it is but I'll try to watch out for it in the future.

    Very little that's posted up here gets run through an editor first - I'll keep working to improve. In the meantime, thanks for understanding, and thanks for reading!
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  • Impulses - Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - link

    Meh, it's probably not the right syntax but I actually don't mind it... It allows for shorter article titles or cramming extra info on the tail end, as he did here. It's pretty low on the list of language butchering habits that web writers propagate these days IMO, and there's something to be said for language evolution... Reply
  • longgoner - Thursday, February 02, 2012 - link

    My apologies, Andrew. Just general constructive criticism (because I care about the site), not directed at you. I took the opportunity because my sentiment had been building up over time. I'm a tech writer, too, so I can appreciate your position. I agree with Impulses' comment, to some extent, but error-free posts are probably a bare minimum, even if most readers don't care, don't notice, or are more interested in content than style. (As tech _writers_, we must care about both, of course.) Editing seems essential, and readers commenting on errors instead of content is a sign of problems. Thanks again. Reply
  • Andrew.a.cunningham - Thursday, February 02, 2012 - link

    No apology necessary! As a writer, I'm sure you understand the need to balance good editorial content, grammatical correctness, and timeliness. I know I make mistakes, but I'm always trying to improve.

    I agree that it'd be great to get a dedicated editor to polish our stuff and make us look better. It's not my decision to make, but I'll mention it to Anand next time we have a Pipeline meeting. :-)
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  • aguilpa1 - Tuesday, January 31, 2012 - link

    All I know is Firefox 7 used to run perfectly for the most part then suddenly after the upgrades starting pouring out suddenly I start getting constant crashes with some damn plug in container quit responding issue that did not exist before. The only easy way to fix it is to end task for plug in container and then refresh the web page to reload and everything works again. It is freaking annoying. Has this been fixed with 10? Reply
  • bun77 - Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - link

    or disable flash. specially on osx. Reply
  • Zingam - Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - link

    One thing they need to fix is: when there are a lot of item in the download list - the browser becomes super slow!!! Firefox has this issue since version 1. That's why I have moved to Chrome and after I moved back to Firefox a few months ago I have discovered that they haven't fixed it yet. Reply
  • theorangutans - Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - link

    with this new version why didn't the add block work then Reply
  • somewho - Wednesday, February 01, 2012 - link

    If only the updates are happens automatically and transparently without any user intervention just like Chrome. Running as standard-user and has to manually download and install the new version as an administrator is really a hassle.

    Altough I agree that Firefox is definitely not "slow" by today standards, it still falls short in several areas. like the font rendering (subjectively for me) and image scaling. And tab grouping is still painfully slow. Would be nice if they implemented the "tab selection" features like Chrome where you can "block" some tabs (with shift) and simply drag them out to new window.
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  • Malih - Thursday, February 02, 2012 - link

    I think they're planning the silent update for Firefox 13. Reply
  • Andrew.a.cunningham - Friday, February 03, 2012 - link

    That's correct, as long as the feature doesn't slip - FF13 is due in June, which is still a ways away. Reply
  • KS2 Problema - Friday, March 02, 2012 - link

    I've used Firefox as my primary browser since version 1.5 but the upgrade to FF 10 is so broken as to make it *completely unusable.*

    When it kept hanging, I created a new profile with no add-ins or extensions. Still broken.

    I used the 'no extensions' command line switch. Still broken.

    When it finally hung up Windows XP itself, forcing a plug-pull reboot, I'd had enough.

    It was nice while it lasted -- and I miss a lot of the functionality that my new primary browser, Chrome, perversely won't add (I'm a moderator on a popular bulletin board and Chrome's lack of support for most WYSIWYG 'inline editors' is EXTREMELY ANNOYING) -- but I can't be having my browser continually hanging up and even locking up my machine.
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