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  • crispbp04 - Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - link

    Sounds Interesting. Can't wait for Win8 public beta! I'm running the developer preview on an MSI Windpad 110W Reply
  • DarkUltra - Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - link

    I hope ReFS doesn't make Windows file operations even slower. I can hear my wd raptor is much less busy in Windows 7 vs XP, and loading the same apps from the same partition is considerably slower in Windows 7.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ysnkfv6KMjQ

    Other windows 7 vs xp speed videos

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay-gqx18UTM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToFgYylqP_U
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  • eddman - Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - link

    I watched your first video and must say you should investigate things a little bit further before coming to such conclusions.

    Select as many files you want, right-click on one of them and then select properties; it'll immediately show their collective size.

    I don't know what windows 7 does after clicking on "show more details" but there must be some explanation for it. Your theory of MS slowing down 7 is ridiculous.
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  • Andrew.a.cunningham - Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - link

    The source post doesn't talk much about performance, but I'd speculate that by the time ReFS gets down to clients, most computers will probably be shipping with SSDs - the performance increases there can mitigate all kinds of security and redundancy-related performance hits (disk encryption, etc.). Reply
  • Klimax - Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - link

    This again??? I thought this i.. died already. Outdated mostly wrong with i... unusecases. An with heavy dose of subjective measurment.

    Really shows what some people know or want to believe and try to spout.

    1) Already saw - I would like to knów what author did to that system with 7. In no way it is general case what he had shown. In fact Explorer (7) is much better in working with thousands of files then Explorer (XP).
    2)Idiocy. Old, unusecase (tell me when you do such thing unless to prove a "point") and probabably just unoptimalised drivers. And doesn't prove a thing.
    3)Quite contrieved, but also the only one showing "problem", where it not for contrieved "usecase".

    To be frank, I had more problems with XP Explorer then with Explorer in 7. (Use TortoiseSVN and MediaInfo)
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  • Jeff7181 - Saturday, January 21, 2012 - link

    And here's proof that Windows 7 is perfectly capable of enumerating and summing the size of the files in the system32 directory in a fraction of a second... make sure you have the audio turned on to hear when I hit enter.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKwQE6Tn-hY
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  • djc208 - Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - link

    This sounds a lot like what WHS 2011 should have had to replace drive extender. Between the two it sounds like you basically get the same functionality as the original Drive Extended but in a more commercial friendly package.

    Might just need to wait for WHS 2013.
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  • kkwst2 - Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - link

    Exactly what I was thinking. I'm sticking with original WHS for now... Reply
  • DanNeely - Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - link

    Only problem is that WHS 1 is going out of support in just under a year 2013/01/08). Unless storage spaces is backported to WHS 2011 and released concurrent with win8 my replacement will probably be a different vendors product (and even then I'd be a bit nervous about using SS without it being through several months of general use to let other people find the bugs). Reply
  • imaheadcase - Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - link

    Since when has "going out of support" mean anything to a OS user? You call MS about problems often?

    Its not like you are a corporation that needs it.
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  • ViRGE - Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - link

    WHS is meant to be Internet-facing. Having it on any kind of Internet-connected network without security patches would be a bad idea. Reply
  • davepermen - Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - link

    that, again, never bothered people much. i still find people using win98 to go online, and stuff. scary scary stuff..

    i moved on to whs2011 and find it worth it, even without having DE at the start. now, with DrivePool reaching it's final stages, it's all good.

    But I might jump to win8 asap anyways (have a samsung series 7 slate with win8 dev preview on it, and it's awesome)
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  • B3an - Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - link

    Couldn't use now just use Win8 to replace WHS? You now have a replacement for Drive Extender, and a updated improved version at that. Drive Extender was the main reason the get WHS really. And wouldn't be surprised if Win8 has more WHS features not yet announced. Reply
  • davepermen - Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - link

    Please let it be a WHS 2012...

    :)

    but, yes. Till then, DrivePool it is for me (or win8serverbeta)
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  • MGSsancho - Tuesday, January 17, 2012 - link

    Features found in Btrfs, ReiserFS(please no jokes about it being dead,) ZFS, Veteras and others. As a true lover of new technology, I welcome the new features. We most wait for shipping products to really see how this performs. Reply
  • lyeoh - Thursday, January 19, 2012 - link

    ReiserFS is not dead, the big problem with it is vendor lock-in.

    ;)
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  • gwolfman - Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - link

    Sounds bad for SSDs where file updates now have to rewrite the entire file rather than update the existing block (wear leveling). Or is it only writing the necessary blocks, which would actually benefit since it could write to a clean block rather than utilize the slow read-modify-write on a dirty block. Reply
  • Adul - Wednesday, January 18, 2012 - link

    My main reason for building a ZFS storage system was to combat file corruption and bit rot. Glad to see MS finally joining to ball game on that. Until then I will enjoy my FreeNaS setup. Reply

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