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  • contradel - Monday, January 09, 2012 - link

    Any news on regards of the battery issues which affected some iPhone 4S? My girlfriends iPhone 4GS got worse battery than a laptop pre 2000, losing half battery over night. Reply
  • kmmatney - Monday, January 09, 2012 - link

    My 4S goes from about 100% to 95% overnight. It gets better battery life than my 3GS. Maybe she just got a bad phone? I haven't done anything special to my phone, except for turning off push for email. Reply
  • kmmatney - Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - link

    I paid attention to it last night - my 4S battery went from 99% to 97% overnight... Reply
  • JNo - Monday, January 09, 2012 - link

    They didn't give users control of 3G?!?! No wonder people are flocking to android - it's a radio button on my homescreen (a widget) too so I don't even have to drill down into a menu... ok I know I sound like a fanboy - I genuinely don't have irrational hatred of apple but that is baby sitting of the worst kind: "No you can not have control of your phone's radios! You're not old enough to understand it silly!" Reply
  • TuxDave - Monday, January 09, 2012 - link

    We used to have it, and then it went away... and now it's back. So no it's not like we've never had it but for whatever reason they decided to punt it. Reply
  • kmmatney - Monday, January 09, 2012 - link

    I haven't missed it, but 3G coverage seems to be good everywhere go, so I have used the option when I had it. You also have airplane mode if you want to turn off all the radios. Reply
  • Brian Klug - Tuesday, January 10, 2012 - link

    The iPhone 4 always had a 3G toggle (and still has it). The iPhone 4S never had a 3G toggle, and now has one. So this is the first time we're *finally* being treated like adults and able to control WCDMA or EDGE on the iPhone 4S.

    My latest conspiracy theory is that they disabled the 3G toggle because *surprise* MDM6610 does not support Rx diversity on GSM/EDGE. (aka, it deathgrips just like the 4 on GSM/EDGE).

  • doobydoo - Friday, January 13, 2012 - link

    It's not about Apple saying 'you're not old enough to understand it' - it was an oversight An oversight which has been duly corrected. It has existed on previous models for a long time.

    As for having a toggle on the homescreen, I guess you could say that Apple assumes most of its users have better things to do with their home screen then to toggle 3G on or off. An assumption with which I concur.
  • rwes - Monday, January 09, 2012 - link

    Apple had allowed ATT users to toggle 3G on and off until the introduction of the 4S. It seems as though a -bug-/oversight in iOS, due to the single handset for all carriers (GSM/CMDA) created the issue.

    Most, if not all, iPhone 4 users still had the ability to toggle 3G on and off on ATT, just the 4S users (myself included) were stuck for a bit.

    Still, we don't have a cool widget to toggle it on and off with though, now that it's back.
  • Derment - Wednesday, January 11, 2012 - link

    So Apple's only answer to fixing the battery issues on this 4S LEMON is to let you nobble the 3G because it uses too much power? In other words, they've given up.

    Am I the only one who's embarrassed to be seen with its products?
  • doobydoo - Friday, January 13, 2012 - link

    Correcting the 3G switch has nothing to do with battery life.

    You'd have to be some kind of moron to criticise the fact that you can turn 3G on or off. The fact that it WASN'T there was the only notable thing.

  • estover - Monday, January 16, 2012 - link

    Yep. Reply
  • JNo - Friday, January 13, 2012 - link

    I don't think you can 100% absolutely say that it has *nothing* to do with battery life. Turning 3G off can only save battery life and that may be important to *some* people other than you *sometimes* - like when they're running out of battery but still want phone functionality. Ain't no smartphone that has satiating battery life, even apple.

    If it was an 'oversight', fair enough but I'm surprised and I wouldn't put it past apple to think that it was their duty to enable 3G all the time on their customers' phones for some weird control/user experience reason.

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