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  • CZroe - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - link

    It may seem like a long time but it's in-line with the rest of the industry. I'm going to be waiting just as long for Android 4.0 Ice Cream Sandwich on my Sony Ericsson Xperia PLAY even though it was one of the first to be announced for ICS. Reply
  • tayb - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - link

    ICS was released at least a month ago and LG isn't expected to update ANY of their phones until Q2 2012? That could be June. The rest might have to wait until September???

    This is not acceptable and the prime reason my current Android, a Droid X, will be my last Android. Phone is barely a year old and I have seen nothing from Motorola to indicate it will EVER get Ice Cream Sandwich.
  • Bateluer - Wednesday, December 28, 2011 - link

    Droid X did get two major OS upgrades, from 2.1 to 2.2, and again from 2.2 to 2.3. Not exactly poor when compared to other Android phones. Plus, the hardware in the X is extremely dated though. You might get something from the community, but Moto's locked bootloader hamstrings that. Reply
  • phantom505 - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - link

    Please... Moto's bootloader is good as unlocked. I got root on my Droid 3 within 2 weeks of owning it and had a ROM with Cyanogen 4-6 weeks later. Now I have ICS on it with CM9. Mind you that it's not 100%, no camera, but everything else is working within reason. I imagine by the end of Jan beginning of Feb we'll have it 100%.

    Droid X is basically ancient terms of cell phones (yr and a half I think...). Not sure why you expect to get ICS on a very dated phone. Besides that what on 2.3.7 (or whatever version you have) is out dated? None of it.

    OMFG, I have to have the latest and greatest and not pay for it!!!!!

    Go to Apple and see how that flies.
  • magnimus1 - Saturday, December 31, 2011 - link

    Actually....Moto's Bootloader has NOT been cracked because it's encrypted.

    So you have root. The Bootloader is not what determines that.

    There are ways of getting around the OS lock and loading a custom ROM......but none of those ROMS allow you to load a custom kernel which is where a lot of the base functionality overclocking or undervolting or changing out your radio. (Wireless tethering also resided there in some phones, but that may have changed...not sure)

    What Bateluer said about the community and bootloader is spot on
  • gamoniac - Saturday, December 31, 2011 - link

    I totally agree with tayb. My Galaxy S (first gen) will probably be my last Android phone. Samsung never bothered to update it, so I am stuck at 2.1 since I bought it. Android is becoming too defragmented, which I have long predicted and will wait to see.

    You mentioned, "...Droid X is basically ancient terms of cell phones (1 yr and a half I think...). Not sure why you expect to get ICS on a very dated phone..." I disagree on two points:

    (a) Take my Galaxy S for instance, I was not able to install a few prominent apps even when it was just a few months old. So, should it be considered "old" in less than a year?

    (b) IMO, 1.5 - 2 years old should not be deemed ancient. That is what we are brainwashed to think, but it should not be the case. Imagine Win7 being out dated in 12 months (afterall, an unlocked smartphone easy costs more than a low to mid range desktop). The mobile industry needs to improve their support. That is the real answer.
  • alcalde - Saturday, December 31, 2011 - link

    1. It is outdated because we're seeing massive performance improvements in a short period of time with phones, just as we did/do with GPUs, CPUs, HDD storage capacity, etc. On top of that older phones simply don't have storage space for the larger code as the OS grows larger as it improves.

    2. "The mobile industry needs to improve their support. That is the real answer. " The mobile industry sells their products to the carrier, not the consumer. Their support of the carrier is just fine. If Americans stopped buying into the subsidized model, that might change.
  • gamoniac - Saturday, December 31, 2011 - link


    1. Why do you think phone companies can get away with supporting a phone that they sell six months ago because there are faster CPU now that runs on newer OS? It just does not make sense. FYI, my first generation Galaxy S has 16 GB on it - more than enough for an OS update. Come on, at least update me to Android 2.2; I can't even use Skype. It's not like I am asking them to continually update my phone. It was NEVER updated from Android 2.1.

    2. This is the crux of the most recent debate. Microsoft sells WP7,the OS, to consumers while Google sells Android to carrriers, who can customize Android as they please, causing great fragmentation to a point beyond sustainable support. So you are partly accurate. And I do hold all three - Google, Samsung, and TMobile accountable for not updating my Galaxy S since its was sold. And I simply don't see how buying unsubsidized phones would entice them to update my phone OS, as we both agree that the customized Android is largely the responsibility of the carriers now.

    The lack of OS update might be acceptable to you since you can afford to buy new phones every year, but that is the reason I am switching to either WP or iOS, or something else.
  • sprockkets - Thursday, December 29, 2011 - link

    Nexus S already got ICS. Guess what phone you get if you like android and the latest software?

    Having lots of choice in hardware plus timely updates are mutually exclusive.
  • alcalde - Saturday, December 31, 2011 - link

    It's a phone, not a PC. Why do you assume you'll get new features for free? That doesn't apply for your tv, your router, your watch, your car, your DVR, your dvd player, or any of your other devices... even your PC. Simply assume the logical "what you buy is what you get" and choose your phone accordingly. You're complaining that the phone you bought won't turn into another phone coming onto the market. Reply
  • StrangerGuy - Saturday, December 31, 2011 - link

    ...Delaying Win 7 for their PCs because they haven't made the Aero theme yet to bundle with them.

    So dumb I'm at loss of words.
  • alcalde - Saturday, December 31, 2011 - link

    How's that dumb? You might have Windows 8 now if Microsoft had the Metro UI down pat. :-) Reply
  • currahee440 - Sunday, January 01, 2012 - link

    I almost got the LG revolution. Stayed away because it had Froyo..... good to see that it was a good decision to not get it... looks like it won't be getting ICS... Reply
  • JimmiG - Monday, January 02, 2012 - link

    LG's skin is very bloated, unstable and memory-intensive anyway. My Optimus 2X is much smoother and more stable with CM7.1 and multitasking works better.

    I wish manufacturers would just drop custom UI's alltogether. It might have been needed with Android 1.6, but the stock Gingerbread and especially 4.0 launchers, home screens etc. are fine.

    Of course they want to obsolete old products and introduce "new" (software-only) features to phones that are almost identical to the previous gen, hardware-wise which is why we get custom UI's and delayed updates.

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