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  • geniekid - Friday, December 02, 2011 - link

    "resembling the kind of case an Imperial Stormtrooper might choose if they were planning on learning how to at least hit the broad side of a barn in their off-duty hours"

  • LintMan - Friday, December 02, 2011 - link

    "While I've gotten used to other enclosures in this market getting bigger or adding new features,NZXT plays the Phantom 410 fairly close to the vest. Internal clearance is actually at a little bit of a premium, ..."

    That phrase - I do not think that means what you think it means.

    Plying something close to the vest means being secretive about it, as in at a poker game holding your cards tightly to your chest (vest) so no one else can see them.
  • ckryan - Friday, December 02, 2011 - link

    I'm going to hold my discontent over another off-hand Star Wars reference close to the vest.

    I didn't see the word "dire" anywhere in the text either.
  • LintMan - Friday, December 02, 2011 - link

    I'm not one for gaudy/flashy cases normally (I just bought a P280), but I kinda like the style of the Phantom 410. It reminds me of a retro 1950's kitchen appliance. As the review says, it's fun.

    Also, 2 USB 3.0 ports! Why is that so hard to find? I scratched a lot of nice cases off my list because of that lack. Are the 3.0 conectors that much more expensive?

    Anyway, seems like a nice case, but given the size problems, I don't think I'd trade my P280 for it, though.

    Lastly, the review mentions that part of the case lights up when powered on... why not post a picture of that in the gallery?
  • The0ne - Saturday, December 03, 2011 - link

    For me I rather the ease and usability of the case than the looks. I think everyone can remember a time when working with a not so friendly case was more frustration than worthwhile. This is a hobby, for me at least, so I want to have fun building/testing the system rather than fuss around it.

    As for USB 3.0, I wish there were more but you be hard press to find more than 2 physical ones on a MB with the rest requiring front panel connectors or additional connectors. I'm not entirely sure why 3.0 hasn't become more widely popular as it is backward compatible with 2.0 and 1.x.

    This case is too small for my taste. Just looking at the internals is making me cringe :)
  • Pit2k - Friday, December 02, 2011 - link

    The more plastic, the higher the chances of things rattling. Reply
  • Subyman - Saturday, December 03, 2011 - link

    He certainly wasn't kidding when he said internal clearance is at a premium. That motherboard is wedged in there! Reply
  • EmoshBZ - Saturday, December 03, 2011 - link

    I want one:) Reply
  • gurboura - Sunday, December 04, 2011 - link

    "First, I'm always disappointed when motherboard standoffs don't come preinstalled from the factory in a modern case. They're a nice convenience and having to screw them in is both tedious and sometimes even a little bit frustrating (for example, having to remove the motherboard and realizing you didn't secure one or two of the standoffs as well as you thought you did)."

    You're going to complain because stand offs didn't come pre-installed? Would it be nice? Yeah. Is it something that trivial to even mention? Doubt it. You're also talking about a $100 case.

    Tedious? It takes a whole two minutes if you're taking your time to get stand offs installed. The only way I could see it being tedious is if you used your fingers to install them. Even then, how often are you going to be taking your motherboard out, taking the stand offs off, and re-installing them? It's not a daily occurrence for the average consumer.
  • Dustin Sklavos - Sunday, December 04, 2011 - link

    You're right, I AM talking about a $100 case. The Corsair Carbide 400R has 'em, and it's a $100 case. The fact is, they can be a little tedious, and if manufacturers are going to look for as many ways as they can to make the assembly process easier, that's a good place to start.

    It seems like a minor nuisance, but honestly I build and dismantle enough of these things that it starts to grate after a while.
  • Tigashark - Sunday, December 04, 2011 - link

    I tend to agree here... I just built a system in an Antec 300 illusion.. thats only a ~$70 case , comes with 4 variable speed fans.. AND had the standoffs fitted in the more common locations for a full size ATX board..

    Its just a nice touch for the manufacturer to at least have the more common standoffs pre-fitted its not make or break but it IS a nice touch...
  • Belard - Tuesday, December 06, 2011 - link

    Also... with some motherboards - you'd only end up taking OFF some of the stand-offs if there isn't a mounting hole in the motherboard.

    This is a non issue. Out of the hundreds of computers I've built - only a few times do I have to deal with screw up loose stand-offs, usually caused by someone else not tightening them up correctly.
  • buzznut - Sunday, December 04, 2011 - link

    As a phantom owner and enthusiast (yes that means I am voiding my warranty like crazy) I have found the phantom to be everything I wanted in a case--almost. It seems the wise folks at NZXT have listened to their fans and really updated the chassis.
    The window has been requested so much that the full tower Phantom has a side panel that owners can now purchase at to add their own. The newer phantoms being sold now have USB 3.0 available.

    The one thing I find lacking is they have no considerations for folks that have 3 1/2 inch bay devices. Of course I don't mean a floppy drive, but things like card readers. One can certainly buy a bay converter but it likely won't match the color or quality of the rest of the case. Cheap plastic being what I am primarily able to find, unless I want to pay $20.

    I think NZXT has a winner here that could potentially outsell the original. Most folks don't want or need a full tower, and the mid tower is extremely popular.
  • HStanford1 - Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - link

    Why don't you want a cheap plastic 3 1/2 bay converter?
    Half of your case is made of it.
  • atragorn - Monday, November 26, 2012 - link

    I just bought this case (Good deal at Microcenter the only place to shop ) and I agree with some of what you said about this case but the standoffs ? Yes they do not come pre-installed, you also failed to mention they include a tool to make installing them easier(Not everyone has the proper nut drivers laying around) which I for one appreciated since I misplaced my nut driver a while ago.

    There are lots of tie down spots on the back, yes the wires for the fans are a bit of a pain but I just moved them to the side till I was done everything else then I hooked them up to the fans and I like to be able to turn all my fans down when I am just doing web stuff (So not wearing headphones) or watching a movie,

    Nothing useful is completely painless in my experience.
    Most people looking for a midsize case are going to be fine with this case, I have two ssds, 3 hdd , a xfx 6850 1gb card, asus m5a97 LE R2.0 (don't buy it no usb 3 internal headers!) and a FX6100 running off a Thermaltake tr2 rx 850 (modular 80+ cant go wrong).
    No trouble building it up,

    It definitely gets noticed when people come over though :/

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