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  • uhuznaa - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    If they manage to roll out all of this without major trouble they deserve some respect.

    I'm waiting for a few days with any updates though.
  • Andrew.a.cunningham - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    So far, my Twitter feed says that isn't happening, but it was nice of them to try. :-) Reply
  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    Updating my iPod Touch now... wish me luck! Reply
  • JarredWalton - Thursday, October 13, 2011 - link

    So, somewhere in the process, my iPod ends up completely wiped. I'm not downloading the apps again, and restoring my music. Unless I can find some other backup, though, I lost all my progress in Angry Birds and some other games. Go Apple... I hate you. Reply
  • Arnulf - Thursday, October 13, 2011 - link

    It's *magical* ! Reply
  • BSMonitor - Thursday, October 13, 2011 - link

    Not magical, common sense... Hmmm, reinstalling the entire OS to a new version, and one doesn't think they might need to update the backup with the current state of the apps / data since last backup..

    No IT professional can account for user stupidity.
  • safcman84 - Monday, October 17, 2011 - link

    WOuld be true, if the backup worked...

    I dont have any apple device, but several of my work colleagues ( in an IT company) tried to update, and have hit numerous issues - including the backup failing.
  • BSMonitor - Thursday, October 13, 2011 - link

    Probably should have synced the App first. Like it tells you! Reply
  • kmmatney - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    It sounds like the only Jailbreak available at the moment is a tethered Jailbreak, which isn't really an option. I only need Jailbreaking for occasional 3G tethering, so my question is, if you are running a tethered Jailbreak, and you reboot your device, will it still start up in normal (non-Jailbreak) mode, or do you need to connect it to a computer for it to even start up and be usable again? Reply
  • r3loaded - Wednesday, October 12, 2011 - link

    From my past experience, it'll just boot non-jailbroken without the tethered boot. Your jailbreak apps like Cydia will stay on the device, they just won't be accessible. Reply
  • InsaneScientist - Thursday, October 13, 2011 - link

    That's correct. As long as you don't install anything that modifies the SpringBoard (specifically, anything that uses MobileSubstrate, if I recall correctly), you should still be able to boot it up and get to the SpringBoard, you just won't be able to access any of the jailbroken apps.

    If you DO install something that hooks into the SpringBoard, it won't start without you connecting to a computer and re-running the jailbreak, so the phone (or iPod) will boot (the kernel will load), but it won't load the shell (the springboard), so you're pretty much stuck...
  • BSMonitor - Thursday, October 13, 2011 - link

    Took 8 hours to download. But my iOS 4.3.5 is now iOS 5.0.0 Reply
  • Arsynic - Thursday, October 13, 2011 - link

    WTF? Reply
  • pukemon - Thursday, October 13, 2011 - link

    Only the iPhone 4S has Siri... Reply
  • Azsen - Thursday, October 13, 2011 - link

    Anyone done/seen any benchmarks for running iOS5 on the 3GS?

    It's not a repeat of the iOS 4 on the 3G where they experienced major slowdowns is it?
  • InsaneScientist - Thursday, October 13, 2011 - link

    There are benches of the 3GS with iOS5 in the iPhone 4s preliminary benchmarks:

    From the benches, it looks like everything has pretty much stayed the same or gone up, and the word of mouth feedback that I've been getting (from a LOT of people) is that it's about the same speed as iOS4.
    And the new notification system (well, not new... they copied Android, but if it works...) is easily worth it all by itself.

    The issue with the move to iOS4 for iPhone 3G and iPod Touch 2G owners was that the CPU in those devices was an ARM6 processor, while the iPhone 3GS/4 (and now 4S) and the iPod Touch 3/4 have ARM7 CPUs. So iOS 4 was really designed for the newer CPU instruction set and wasn't optimized very well for the older one.
    iOS5 is only for ARM7 CPUs, so they only need one OS, rather than having to keep a separate one for the old devices, so it shouldn't (and so far looks like it doesn't) suffer from the same problems. :)
  • Azsen - Thursday, October 13, 2011 - link

    Ok good explanation thanks. I can see some benchmarks for 3GS on iOS 5 but there's no comparison in the bar graph with the 3GS running on iOS 4.3.5. I guess that's what I would've liked to see. Reply
  • choirbass - Friday, October 14, 2011 - link

    It looks like the most reasonable thing to do then is compare current results, to results from an older article that has the desired OS (or the closest to it) Reply

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