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  • QuantumPion - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    Nice products, it looks like they actually took their time to design what people actually want (cherry MX reds & nice mouse designs). Reply
  • DanNeely - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    8+ key rollover support currently needs a PS2 port; at this point it's the only legacy port left on most motherboards and a few are starting to drop it. This leaves me wondering if it's going to end up becoming completely gone in a few years (the way serial/parallel/game ports died off over the last few) unless someone writes a USB driver for high end keyboards. Reply
  • sheltem - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    Most of the mechanical keyboards I looked at had 6 key rollover support over usb. Reply
  • DanNeely - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    Could be. I thought the cutoff was 7. Reply
  • KikassAssassin - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    USB has a limitation of 6+4 key rollover (6 standard keys plus 4 modifier keys, such as ctrl, shift, etc).

    Microsoft has come up with a way to allow higher rollover through USB, though (theoretically, it allows up to something like 20 key rollover, but in practice you can get transposition errors after 12 or so keys due to the way Windows handles USB keyboard input), and they implemented it on the Sidewinder X4 keyboard. They've said they'll allow other companies to license the technology, but I don't know if anyone's taken them up on it yet.
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  • JNo - Saturday, September 17, 2011 - link

    Really glad to see someone else getting into the keyboard space in a good way. I love Logitech but wouldn't buy their gaming keyboards as I'd prefer a proper mechanical one. I know the Cherry Reds are low acuation linear but, despite enjoying FPS, I think I'd still prefer the 'click'. If they did the blues and browns too, that would be awesome.

    Aluminium sound lovely, if a bit extravagant - would love a black finish option too. Otherwise love the minimalist look with just the necessary media keys. Corsair, please bring out in UK with UK layout!

    PS totally agree - mobo manufacturers dropping the PS2 port is an serious oversight for keyboard enthusiasts!
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  • MichaelValera - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    We have a for real 20 key RO on USB. We spent a lot of engineering time on it. Reply
  • JNo - Saturday, September 17, 2011 - link

    Good stuff Michael, glad some people are trying to tackle the issue... Reply
  • Ben90 - Saturday, September 17, 2011 - link

    Its 6 keys + modifiers for USB. Really not that big of a deal considering most of the modifiers are next to the WASD cluster. Reply
  • readers - Sunday, September 18, 2011 - link

    Wrong, do search on Filco to learn what you can do with a USB keyboard Reply
  • axsis - Tuesday, October 18, 2011 - link

    Not entirely true the Noppoo choc mini among a few others has N key roll over over usb and works on Linux and Windows but requires adapters to work on Mac (not sure if the N Key carries over but given the keyboard has N key roll over via PS/2 (but doesn't come with an adapter) it is likely to work. However the trick is a chip that mimics more devices so you get 4 input devices in device manager. That engineering team needs a medal it's quite ingenious ^^

    Also Filco and Leopold newer keyboards have a pretty realiable 18-20KRO on USB. Which is more than enough for gaming and N key is more or less something to show off. So we may not need the PS2 port much longer however it certainly is nice to save a USB port!

    What is unfortunate about the Corsair range is their use of rubber domes for the top row on both keyboards and the macro keys. They decided it was a goood place to save money but many would argue that defeats the purpose of making a mechanical keyboard. Perhaps they will revise this choice and also offer brown switches at some point or a tenkeyless layout both I think would go down really well. Reds are great but I just feel less in control then I did when I had brown switches although you get used to it.

    CM Storm are releasing a mechanical tenkeyless keyboard with a variety of switch choice that seems to have the same OEM as filco which will cost less than the Corsair board. I reckon if their Spawn mouse is anything to go by in terms of quallity and you want a mechancal keyboard just to try it out grab a mx brown variant. I will be getting one as soon as I can but for the moment the choc mini with mx red is still way better than rubber domes...
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  • PhatoseAlpha - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    The K60 instead ships with a removable wrist wrest (which is actually quite comfortable) and easily removable

    Wrist Wrest
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  • JarredWalton - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    You missed the rest of the sentence: and easily removable, textured WASD and 1-6 keys. Reply
  • ElFenix - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    wrest does not mean what you think it does Reply
  • JNo - Saturday, September 17, 2011 - link

    haha! exactly

    Maybe he just needs a good night's wrest...

    ;)
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  • Digimonkey - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    If it's comfortable it's obviously not doing a very good job of wresting. Reply
  • Kaboose - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    The title of the article is "Corsair Enters the Gaming Keyboard & Mouse Market with Vengeance" and shows a picture of a headset and your first 1/3 of the article is about the headset... seems like you should change the title xD Reply
  • th3pwn3r - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    Really? There are a total of FIVE sentences about headsets. I think you should try to read better.

    Anyhow, that mouse with the nine buttons on the side seems nuts, it would be nice to have BUT I think I'd end up pressing the wrong side button for a bit.
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  • int9 - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    I wish I could find a fingertip-designed mouse with that many buttons. I tried the G700 but only 2 out of 7 programmable buttons are reachable with my grip. Reply
  • fhaddad78 - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    I agree.. I mean after a few moments of reading you come to keyboards and mice, but maybe make the title Corsair enters the gaming market with a Vengeance!

    You're welcome! (=
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  • sheltem - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    Although I'd prefer a tenkeyless mechanical board (no number pad), I am ecstatic that Corsair is throwing their hat into the ring. All of their products are top notch and backed by a generous warranty. I will easily buy the K60 when the sale price drops below $100. Reply
  • ImSpartacus - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    The textured thing is nice, but red? Meh.

    At least they are removable.
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  • NicePants42 - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    I'm looking forward to trying out those keyboards; hopefully they're as buttery smooth and silent as they, er, sound.

    But I have to say, after trying out a Cyborg Command Unit, there really is no point in using a keyboard for any game anymore, but especially for MMOs. Why bother moving your hands around to hit programmable G-keys when you can macro every single button multiple times on a control pad? A thumb joystick for movement will increase actions per second in any game.

    Cyborg's Command Unit programming software is awesome, but the unit itself is a cheap piece of crap (although the joystick is almost perfect). Nostromo's build quality is better, but still lacking, and the D-pad needs to be a joystick. I haven't ever tried the logitech G13, but I'd be paying for a useless LCD screen.

    IMHO, Corsair needs to take the high quality materials and build quality approach to control pads. If I had a Cyborg Command Unit with silky, quiet key action, I'd be one happy gamer.
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  • Tetracycloide - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    That Unit really doesn't have enough keys for an RTS. So that's one point in using a keyboard for a game anymore. Reply
  • Rookierookie - Saturday, September 17, 2011 - link

    There are quite a few people who would rather not buy an additional piece of hardware that you don't really use outside gaming. Reply
  • OferMania - Wednesday, December 07, 2011 - link

    Rookierookie,

    I swear by the Cyborg Commant Unit. And I use it not just for gaming, but also for Internet Browising, editing Word/Excel documents, and editing code for computer programs. I work in software engineer for a living. The Cyborg Command Unit has literally improved my efficiency over using the regular keystrokes on a standard keyboard.

    I agree with NicePants42 that a Cyborg Command Unit w/ quiet key action would be a great thing.

    I use the Cyborg Command Unit with a mouse and mini-keyboard (the one with 84 keys & no numeric keypad). You can always program a numeric keypad onto the Cyborg Command Unit. By having the keypad on the left side instead of the right shortens the distance between the typing area for the right hand and the mouse, making it more comfortable to use a mouse. (Don't believe me? Try it for yourself!!!)

    My biggest regret in life is the fact the Cyborg Command Unit is out of print. The product was manufactured by Saitek, who recently sold off all rights to Cyborg products (including the RAT 7/9 mouse) over to Mad Catz. Mad Catz chose to discontinue this product since not enough people bought it.

    There are two similar products to the Cyborg Command Unit currently on the market, but neither are anywhere as good: The Logitech G13, and the Razer Nostromo (the Nostromo is almost identical to the out-of-print Belkin N52). Although Razer's feel of the keys & use of modes is superior to the Command Unit, the Nostromo has fewer keys and no real analog. (That thing for the left thumb that looks like an analog is really just a "hat" sitting on top of a D-pad, and it very uncomfortable to game with for more than 5 minutes...) The G13 has a real analog, but has too many keys & a non-intuitive key layout. Command Unit's layout of a leftside keyboard is more intuitive. Plus, G13 takes almost a minute to boot up & be ready to use AFTER I turn my PC on or wake it up from sleep mode, but Command Unit is ready to go within 3 seconds or less. In addition, the G13 drivers do not work correctly for certain key combos out of the box & you'll need some treasure hunting over the Internet to correct this. There are also certain days when the G13 decides not to work (does anyone know G13's favorite morning coffee?), but I've never faced this problem with the Command Unit.
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  • Rivensteel - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    Those prices are pretty steep, but it looks like there's a lot of quality behind them. Have they said whether they will support ESDF textured keys for the K60? Can these keys be used in the K90? I'd love the ultimate edition with the K90 chassis, textured ESDF and 1-6 keys, and a wrist rest. Of course, they would probably charge $175 for it. Reply
  • Tetracycloide - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    Given the attention to detail in every other aspect of these products it seems odd that they would market a 'linear' mechanical switch on an "RTS" keyboard. Reds just aren't good switches for this application. Reply
  • thrawn3 - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    I have the older HS1 headset from them and I find it fantastic in quality. I am admittedly no audiophile and I assume that there are better sounding things out there but for the price I find them amazing. If they are updating and improving something already as good as the HS1 then they should be excellent. Reply
  • Zap - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    The K60 keyboard looks nice. That other keyboard... talk about key overload. I want my keyboards to be very "normal" so that I can just sit down and start using.

    I like the looks of the Vengeance 1100 headset. Would rather have normal 3.5mm plus though, instead of it being USB.

    The mice looks a bit busy. I do like how the scroll wheel looks - as if your finger will never slip. Braided cable is nice, I just hope the cable is really limp. That's the one feature I find important in corded mice, a really limp cable that doesn't get in the way.
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  • JonJonPoPong - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    Why is it every time I see a "gamer" keyboard the WASD keys are high lighted or made to visually stand out in color, or the keyboard has LEDs and lights up?

    What "gamer" is playing a game and forgets where the WASD keys are and has to look down at their keyboard to be reminded? Do they honestly believe we are idiots with fingers that get lost on a keyboard? Oh no I am playing in the dark and don't know what the keys are, who the #@%& has not been using a keyboard long enough to know where the keys are? Do people have to look at the keyboard while typing text? If you get lost and cant find WASD then how could you ever type text?
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  • MilwaukeeMike - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    Lol, awesome comment. Answered in two simple words...

    Bling Bling.
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  • Onslaught2k3 - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    BOOYAH. This point is made. Adding LEDs to a keyboard increases production cost by extremely little while allowing the markup to exceed sometimes $15-20. You know what's a less gimmicky product to light your way around your game? Literally, get that Antec light kit that goes behind your LCD. For those running multiple display setups it may not work as well but there's enough light from your monitor(s) or this cheap light kit (less than $20) that would illuminate the paint on your keys in case you lost home row. Reply
  • steve4king - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    I would REALLY love to see a firmware based macro system from gaming peripherals. Firmware based macros are not susceptible to interference from 3rd party applications and do not need to worry about whether they will work in a specific application. Also software based timing in my experience (logitech) will vary greatly depending on system load and program state. This does not happen with firmware based macros. Business vendors such as Cherry have done this for a very long time, but these devices are not suitable for gaming. Reply
  • MichaelValera - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    From the specs: 36Kb of onboard memory for storing up to three sets of eighteen G keys for gaming on the go Reply
  • hansmuff - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    Considering what the likes of Razer have been coming up with (complete junk), these actually seem to be well engineered. I'm looking forward to the reviews. Reply
  • Thrakazog - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    I've stuck with Logitech gaming KB & mouse for quite some time now, because too many of the other "gaming specialty" companies offered stuff that was either full of useless design or low reliability. I tried Saitek and Razer stuff, but it just didn't measure up. I'm excited to see some reviews......I may just have to upgrade my input peripherals system =P Reply
  • stm1185 - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    Their MMO keyboard seems to have the same stupid key layout so many others have now. They put all those keys off to the left with no way of hitting them without taking your hand off the WASD movement keys. Now I dont know what MMO's they are playing, but the ones I have played required you to keep moving and as such keep using WASD, so how do you even hit those keys to the left when you need to keep using WASD to move?

    Which is why I think it's a really stupid layout and they should instead start adding modifier keys down below the space bar where the thumb could hit with ease while you maintain the WASD positioning to stay mobile in the game.
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  • PubFiction - Friday, September 16, 2011 - link

    Street price is going to be the killer here. These need to beat logitechs street prices for mice. The keyboards on the other hand seem decent if they are full nice mechanicals for those prices. I agree with the comment about the highlighted keys being stupid. Beyond not needing them I think a very large number of gamers move over to esdf or rdfg to controls. Reply
  • kevith - Saturday, September 17, 2011 - link

    The mice look very nice.

    But why have Corsair returned to the time, where keys on the keyboard are high as the Empire state building?
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  • coolhardware - Saturday, September 17, 2011 - link

    Nice to see Corsair enter the kb/mouse market! I'm going to add these to my <a href="http://www.jdhodges.com/2011/06/best-starcraft-2-g... 2 keyboard list</a> for evaluation. Hope they live up to their potential :-) Reply
  • coolhardware - Saturday, September 17, 2011 - link

    Sorry for the messed up hyperlink! Still, hope these turn out to be great keyboards! Reply
  • etamin - Saturday, September 17, 2011 - link

    Can't say I've seen such well thought out peripherals in quite a while. I'm not sure if they're necessarily priced to sell though, especially the mice. It would be great if they provided a more basic version of the K90 without the macro key extension to compete with other basic illuminated keyboards (I'd buy at $70). I can see the rubber cap idea on the K60 being applied to other instances in the future, such as on a numpad or arrow keys. My only gripe is that he M90's buttons make me weary about cleaning it. Those crevices filled with gunk after a month's worth of use must be a pain to clean out, something a little more streamlined could help. But it's always nice to see sleeved cables. Reply
  • SirGCal - Saturday, September 17, 2011 - link

    Would be nice if they offered 3.5"" jack options. I despise USB headsets... I'd much rather have the convenience of my simple plug-in 3.5" mm set like my Sennheiser's. Reply
  • Stas - Monday, September 19, 2011 - link

    Again with stupid transformer looking hardware. It's like riced out civics you see on the streets. Logitech got it right with clean designs, great ergonomics, and high-class performance internals. Leave that flashy-gazzillion-button crap to $3 dealextreme products. kthxbye. Reply
  • ThousandStars - Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - link

    <a href="http://jseliger.com/2009/01/31/ibm-model-m-unicomp... I used a regular keyboard, I'd still use a Model M</a> / Unicomp Space Saver (which are, today, effectively the same thing).

    Any sense on how Corsair's keyboard compares?
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  • Pastuch - Friday, September 23, 2011 - link

    Really too bad about the lack of a backlight on a $109 keyboard. Little ridiculous if you ask me. Reply

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