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  • cosmotic - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    Thats 1000 times slower than what is currently considered standard and 10x slower than what was considered standard the late EIGHTIES! Reply
  • DanNeely - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    Reading fail. "There is also a 100Mb Ethernet port (yeah, you heard it right, Megabit)" It's 100MB, which is faster than wifi if still obsolescent as a wired standard. Reply
  • cjl - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    Not if you have 802.11n... Reply
  • DanNeely - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    wired ethernet has no trouble getting very near its rated speed, wireless never even gets close to it. Despite the theoretical maximum, 802.11n is significantly slower than 100mb wired ethernet. Reply
  • therealnickdanger - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    ???

    100Mb megabits per second = 12.5MB megabytes per second theoretical maximum is not faster than 802.11n. Even with a medium strength signal I can pull over 20MB megabytes from my server over 802.11n.

    1000Mb megabit (gigabit) is 10 times faster than 100Mb megabit and is definitely faster than 802.11n in theory and practice.
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  • Spivonious - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    You've had good luck with the n devices then. I tried it out and despite it connecting at 150Mbps, I never got higher than 7-8MB/s file transfers. Reply
  • quiksilvr - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    Chances are you are running on a 2.4 GHz signal, which encounters quite a lot of interference. My suggestion to you would be to switch to a dual band 5 GHz router and make sure the wireless card you are using is 5GHz as well. Reply
  • therealnickdanger - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    Also, if your WAP is connected to a slower hub or switch, that may also be limiting your wireless bandwidth. Reply
  • caziques - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    Reading fail. "Other inputs: 2x USB 3.0, 2x USB 2.0, Megabit Ethernet 2x USB 3.0, 2x USB 2.0, Megabit Ethernet"

    It's right there in the graph. Megabit Ethernet, just like the OP said.
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  • DanNeely - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    It's apparently using a proprietary wireless connection, which would limit it to the handful of laptops supporting in; just like current docking stations are limited to the handful of laptops using their dock connector.

    If it used Intels wireless display tech I could potentially see the point, although at least initially the same problems would be present there's a reasonablish chance if it becoming common in the next few years.
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  • Reikon - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    Uh... because it sounds like the USB dongle handles all the communications, so it would work with pretty much any laptop. Reply
  • Kristian Vättö - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    Yes, that is the idea. Any laptop with appropriate specs (see the System Requirements) should be able to use Central Station. Reply
  • DanNeely - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    I missed the bit about the dongle. The question becomes how big is it? Leaving the traditional thumbdrive sized ones is dangerous since they're easily bashed while moving the laptop. Unless it's the very small plug sort you'd just change having to plug a cable for having to plug a dongle in every time you went back to your desk.

    Simple video cable standards are gaining sub channels large enough to do most of what you need for other accessories. HDMI can carry 100MB ethernet on a subchannel, DP1.2 has a 720Mb/sec sub channel which is enough headroom to carry USB2 as well.
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  • Kristian Vättö - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/upload...
    http://blog.laptopmag.com/wpress/wp-content/upload...

    There are two good pictures (Anand doesn't like to use other people's pictures so I left them out. Besides, there is nothing on Samsung's site so could be that these connectors are not the final ones).
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  • DanNeely - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    I suppose folding up is less of a problem than sticking out, but it's still probably not something I'd be comfortable with leaving on my laptop 24/7. Especially since with intel pushing to make ultra thin laptops the default that's going to end up well over the top with the lid closed. Maybe it if could rotate 90* and run parallel to the laptop body, although you'd be dependent on the plug layout letting you do that without blocking anything important. Reply
  • crimson117 - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    How does USB have enough bandwidth to drive a 1080p monitor (along with all the other docked features like keyboard, mouse, etc) Reply
  • DigitalFreak - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    They probably compress the hell out of it. Reply
  • DanNeely - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    Probably, but USB2 monitor adapters have always stank above very low resolutions (no smooth animation or video playback); unless they're offering a USB3 dongle this is unlikely to be usable.

    (Only offering USB2 data even with a USB3 level hookup isn't unreasonable since the video would need most of the bandwidth.)
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  • Hrel - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    I want a wireless hub, with built in usb dongle. But I wanna use it with whatever tv/keyboard/mouse/speakers etc I want. I don't wanna be forced into that rather mediocre Samsung display. Personally I like my 37" HDTV best for my bedroom. So if I could just set the laptop on the nightstand, grab my bluetooth keyboard/mouse or 360 controller or whatever and just start using it on my tv without having to fuss with cables that'd be great.

    You know what. I've been wondering when I'll finally ditch desktops all together. Being a bit of a power user and all. I think when the day that everything I want from a dock comes that will be the day I decide to never build another desktop again.

    Also hopefully by then EVERY laptop part is standardized and interchangeable like desktops are now, mostly. Seriously guys, it's not that hard to just certify a specific chassis for 55W TDP GPU and 45W CPU or whatever. Then people like us, who read sites like this all the time, could mess around with customizing heatsinks and fans and what not. Liquid cooling in a laptop? One day friends, one day:)
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  • SlinkyDink - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    You'll still need to connect the laptop for power, so might as well just plug in a mini display port instead.

    Apple has the right idea with it's recent patent showing a magsafe connector that has Lightpeak built in (just one cable for power, display, NAS, devices, etc)
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  • Kristian Vättö - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    If you have a laptop with long battery life, there may not be a need to connect the power cord every time. Apple's patents are always interesting but most of the time they never see the daylight. I think Central Station does have a market and a future. Like I said in the article, these are the first gen monitors so they left a lot to be desired. Reply
  • velis - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    For mentioning the 2560 resolution.
    I think review sites such as Anandtech should really push for resolutions because the manufacturers aren't listening to us enthusiasts.
    Given enough "demand" from review sites, there's bound to be a manufacturer that would take the plunge and try a decent high-res monitor so that we at least have a choice.

    Otherwise we'll be stuck with 1080p for years to come...
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  • Kristian Vättö - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    In this case, I actually understand the low resolution. Since it's wireless, there are bandwidth limitations. A higher res requires more bandwidth and might be that this technology isn't advanced enough to support 2560 resolutions. Otherwise I'm totally with you, we need more 2560 displays at better prices :) Reply
  • viktory - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    Plugging in one VGA/DVI Cable, which is also standardised, is now too much to ask for? Not sold.

    I would like to see an open standard for video-out on phones running meego/android/ios.
    Turn your phone into your all-purpose computing device. That may sell some new monitors.
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  • Peanutsrevenge - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    I've been talking a bit recently about the whole docking thing (Asus transformer & Padfone).
    So, how long until we just have our (super)smartphones doing all the work and just dock them to whatever size screen /peripheral is best for whatever situation?

    Gaming/DTP/Graphics etc will continue to demand high end desktops, but most people just browse the web (cloud computing anyone?) and process some words, so such technology would be brilliant.

    Oh technology, how I love you so!
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  • krackel - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    I have one of these and it uses UWB for the wireless connection which is way it doesn't suffer any interference issues with my WiFi or BT. The thing i like the best about it is the quick connect/disconnect time. Exactly as they described i use this for business and when i come in and out of my office it quickly and easily connects and disconnects allowing me to both use the monitor and quickly print something to my USB printer that is connected to the monitor. I don't do a ton of gaming or watching movies, but it works perfect for typical video clips and watching streams while I am working. Reply
  • Kristian Vättö - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    Thanks. I will update the article to include that is uses UWB (some other sites confirmed this too). Reply
  • Kyrra1234 - Sunday, June 19, 2011 - link

    It is indeed Ultra Wideband. My friend wrote the USB driver and did some of the firmware work for this device. :) Reply
  • Slayeristight - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    I think a device like this would be most useful for people that use tablets or phones. Make it a touchscreen or allow the use of a keyboard and mouse and you are set. I think it would make tablets extremely useful and even a replacement for a computer. Reply
  • XZerg - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    If Samsung releases this for the TVs instead would be perfect. Reply
  • MrSpadge - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    no thanks! Reply
  • noeldillabough - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    I was thinking that Thunderbolt could be added to all laptops and have docks that take a single cable, I can handle plugging a single cable into my machine, especially if the same dock could be used on multiple laptops. Reply
  • BugblatterIII - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    Google for the Toshiba dynadock wireless U.

    I have the wired version and it works very well. Unfortunately the wireless version doesn't go up to 1920x1200, which rules it out for me, but the basic idea is great. It's a shame it never really went mainstream; they might have taken it further.
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  • Belard - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    $450 for a 23 inch HD-Monitor? I'm sick of these HD monitors... I'm glad I got one of the last 1920x1200 screens, I DON'T like these narrow monitors we have today, especially for notebooks! My next notebook upgrade is going to suck.

    There is SHOULD be high-res 27~28" in displays hitting 2500x1600. That is what I want to upgrade to, but in the 27~28" size.

    Such high price for a 23" screen, might as well buy the $100~150 dock and plug them into whatever monitor you want. Obviously, the issues have been pointed out (many notebooks don't have docking ports and even upgrading a notebook usually means a new docking bay)

    ThinkPad's Docking bay is about $120. It includes: dual DVI output (for DUAL monitor display) in up to 1920x1200 each. 4 USB ports, PS/2 key/mouse ports, wired Ethernet port. From the docking unit, you can of course, add wireless keyboard and mouse. Such a combo is easily cheaper than this Samsung product.
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  • hucklongfin - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    I like the concept. Just don't build it into the monitor. If it was a box you attach a monitor to it'd be great. That way I could use it with any monitor and be good to go... add VGA/DVI/HDMI/Thunderbolt ports to cover all the bases. I just don't want to (and wouldn't) buy their monitor as part of the package. Reply
  • strikeback03 - Thursday, June 16, 2011 - link

    This^ I think for this to go much anywhere the laptop side has to be integrated on a lot of laptops (like Bluetooth is now) and the desk side should be a box that the monitor and peripherals plug into. Pair that with inductive charging for the laptop and no wires would be required no matter how long the use and you could choose whatever display is suitable Reply
  • Sabresiberian - Thursday, June 16, 2011 - link

    $600 for a 1920x1080 27" monitor??

    First of all, I'm not buying anyone's 27" monitor for any price with truck-sized pixels. Second, you can buy a GOOD 27" monitor for $225-250 more with a 2560x1440 screen and decent pixel pitch (excellent by today's standards). I paid $825 for the Dell U2711 by waiting for the right time to buy it. From Dell. There are other good manufacturer options that sell in that price range - and in the U.K. and I believe the rest of Europe, Hazro offers the 2560x1440 27" at around the $600 price (we just can't get them in the U.S.).

    I'm not sure what the big deal is about connecting wireless anyway. I mean, my Mom's $400 laptop came with a VGA connector on the back - don't most laptops provide a connector for another monitor? No limitation in bandwidth or degradation in signal - really, what's the point of these things again?
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  • hucklongfin - Thursday, June 16, 2011 - link

    No wires is the point. You go to your desk with your laptop and just use the KVM there without attaching anything. When you want to go mobile just grab the laptop and go. As is, I attach my monitor with an HDMI cable, plug in the speakers and the power. Not that big a deal especially since I switched to a wireless mouse and keyboard. Reply
  • HMTK - Friday, June 17, 2011 - link

    Crappy resolution: I hate 16:9. That's nice for TV but useless for work. Actually I don't like 16:10 either. 4:3 is far superior but along the way some fucking idiots decided to use widescreen panels on business laptops

    It also needs drivers. Docking stations normally don't (except the crappy USB "docks"). I'd prefer an industry standard connector for video/sound/USB/Firewire/whatever and even power to the monitor. Just 2 cables to plug in on the laptop: power and monitor. And NO drivers. For home use this seems nice, for serious business use less so.
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  • Anon_12345 - Friday, June 17, 2011 - link

    http://www.alereon.com/

    This product uses UWB technology from this company Alereon, they even link to this article on their homepage. They also have some other cool products for wireless HDMI linking and the like, very cool company.
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  • StormyParis - Friday, June 17, 2011 - link

    hopefully we'll get a generic version not bundled with a monitor, too. Reply
  • Conficio - Sunday, June 19, 2011 - link

    In my eyes this is wasted money:
    * No open standard, so it only works between Samsung equipment. Well, its an USB dongle, but still...
    * USB dongle, that means it also steals a USB port. So the limited number of ports laptps have these days are reduced.
    * it connects USB, but USB devices need to be ejected in order to disconnect properly. So just walking away is not an option.
    * While many laptops these days dow hold power for a long time. when I'm at my desk I really would liek to charge them at the same time. So now I still have to plugin and unplug a cable.
    * The number of USB ports is actually rather low. If I plug in a simple keyboard, a mouse, and a CD drive, what is left? You mean a dockign station just for the screen? Ha, ha, ha, if I dock I want a better keyboard and a mouse. That's me.
    * If this central station also would contain a backup and storage server, which also woudl be accessible over the Wired ethernet port and wifi, we might be talking.

    Also many questions:
    * Is the USB dongle included in the Monitor purchase? If not what is its price?
    * Multiple laptops? All off a suden my colleague comes over with his Samsung enabled laptop does it interfear with my conection?
    * Can I use my colleagues screen to demo something from my laptop? Is there some on screen menu to choose from teh multipel laptops in the receiving range?
    * Are there extender stations for the receiving antennae and projectors (or large TV screens) available? Conference room use, where I want to decide which laptop does project.
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  • roycecrazy - Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - link

    It's perfect for business use. I've already got the Samsung Series 9 at work, and with this I'll have a dream setup. A nice looking, ultraportable laptop with great specs, and a superslick wireless docking solution for my office.

    I can't really see anyone challenging the combo of the Samsung Central station and the Samsung Series 9 laptop for business use.
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  • HN55 - Friday, June 24, 2011 - link

    I have a Series 9 and just got the Central Station. Can't seem to make the 9 talk to the CS via WiDi. And, the CS USB dongle is too small to fit into the 9's recessed USB ports.

    If you figure out how to attach via WiDi, I'd appreciate hearing how you did it.
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  • roycecrazy - Monday, July 04, 2011 - link

    This comment is from CNET:

    "Samsung support tells me that the Series 9 will NOT connect to the CS without the dongle. The realize (now) that the dongle will not fit into the S9, so they are providing a new dongle. Just call Samsung support with the serial numbers of your S9 and CS.
    Does seem a bit strange that Samsung's two newest products can't connect wirelessly without an extra dongle."

    I'd like to get Kristian Vättö to comment on this. He claims in this article that:

    "Update: As noted in the comments, Samsung uses UWB
    (Ultra-wideband) for wireless connection. It's the most suitable for
    small range connections which explains Central Station's 5 feet range.
    Some laptops even have UWB built-in (e.g. Samsung 9 Series) so they can
    connect to Central Station without the USB dongle."

    I will call Samsung and have them send me a new Dongle, but I'd still like to be able to connect without the dongle.
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  • katepop79 - Friday, January 27, 2012 - link

    I do NOT recommend buying a Samsung Central Station monitor - after spending nearly $400 more vs regular monitors for wireless connectivity and docking, it is full of bugs. It has tremendous trouble sensing my laptop at all (despite being 3 inches away) and constantly shuts itself off or doesn't sense the laptop at all. Samsung customer service told me that's because it works best when NOT plugged into a surge protector! Best Buy Geek Squad told me they would never NOT plug office equipment into surge protector. It's too late to return this monitor and honestly I wasted so much money on it. VERY DISSATISFIED and samsung said there is nothing they can do to help. I was pretty apauled that they are aware of these flaws and do not clearly label that on the product or make their retail partners aware. That's the last time I buy anything that Samsung makes. Reply

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