POST A COMMENT

46 Comments

Back to Article

  • czesiu - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    Is it possible upload music to iCloud w/o matching (and paying)?http://images.scribblelive.com/2011/6/6/9cbeb373-f... Reply
  • JasonInofuentes - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    No. iCloud, without iTunes Matching, will basically work with previously and new iTunes purchases. So, if you have 10,000 tracks not bought from iTunes, they are exempt from this service. Reply
  • web2dot0 - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    Kinda foolish to think that you can get something for nothing. Nothing is ever free. There's no free lunch. Reply
  • aalbionthomas - Sunday, June 26, 2011 - link


    ONLINE STORE :
    www styl eo wn com
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    1) More pictures available on our website --
    3) Perfect quality, small order accepted .
    4) 100% safe door to door delivery, within 5 - 7 days air express for small orders .
    5) We have lots of jerseys in stock
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    www styl eo wn com
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    6) Letters and number are sewn on b2cshop body, 100% embroidery
    7) Size: .48, 50, 52, 54, 56, 60
    8) Delivery by UPS, DHL, EMS door to door
    9) Delivery in 5 - 7 days
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    NFL,NBA,MLB all are 18usd!!!!
    Reply
  • Crazymech - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    I might've misunderstood a couple things during a short liveblog overview.

    But does this mean that people with potential pirated music would get DRM free 256 kbps AAC music matched by the iTunes service for free, as long as it matches the name and is available in the iTunes store?

    Not that it matters to me, I'm a Spotify premium user, but it's interesting nonetheless.
    Reply
  • slapkey - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    Yes and no. Yes, it seems that pirated music would be matched and added to the cloud. No, it would not be free. iTunes Match is a $24.99/year service, and is not provided for free as part of iCloud. Reply
  • JasonInofuentes - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    It's rather unclear how the Matching service will do what it does. Most likely the system will take a look at ID3 tags and track length and match based on that. This should work with ripped or pirated music, and if somehow Apple bakes some way to exempt pirated tracks from the service then no doubt it will work just a few hours after release. Reply
  • jamesvdm - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    ID3 + length would not be optimal. More likely it will take a hash of the file and compare to their own. Reply
  • Impulses - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    That would be way too restrictive, given the multitude of formats and bitrates a user could have ripped his music into... Although it wouldn't surprise me. Reply
  • erple2 - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    I'd think so, but the following line suggests otherwise:

    "You are even given the opportunity to re-download the songs in Apple's standard DRM-free 256kbps AAC format, in the event that your songs are encoded at a lower bitrate."
    Reply
  • bobbozzo - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    Not a hash, but an audio Fingerprint; a la what MusicBrainz Picard and other apps do.
    The fingerprint is based upon the audio patterns of the music, and is independent of bitrate, format, etc.
    Reply
  • thewhat - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    It wouldn't be free and I personally fail to see the point in paying for something you already have (pirated or not).
    But anyway, the matching service would not just look at the name or tags, it will most likely (among some other things) scan the musical content itself and try to find a match. It's something which a few services have been doing for a while, it's nothing new.
    Reply
  • steven75 - Friday, June 10, 2011 - link

    You already have all your music in 256k or higher?

    You already have a fail-safe backup of all your music that costs you less than $25/year? (Even hard drives cost money--your music collection will always get bigger--and they cost time as well)
    Reply
  • steven75 - Friday, June 10, 2011 - link

    It may matter to you, as this is much less than Spotify per year. Doesn't that cost about $120? Reply
  • sidefxv1 - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    When comparing this to Amazon or Google cloud services, where's the redundancy? Apple has a big shiny new data center to support this... ONE data center? What if something happens to that data center or my access to it from my part of the world? Maybe I'm missing something but personally I'm going to trust a "Cloud offering" from companies that have data centers in double figures spread across the globe more than a company that just has a single huge data center to support their cloud offering. Maybe I'm missing something though. Reply
  • darwinosx - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    There is at least one other data center that I know of plus CDN al over the world. Duh. Reply
  • web2dot0 - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    dude ... Apple spent $1B on the data center infrastructure .... do you really think they are morons? Come on man .... you make it sound like they have amateurs running the show.

    There are actually smart people other than ourselves in this world. Really ... they exist.
    Reply
  • HMTK - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    The problem may be that there's a datacenter at only one physical location. There wil probably be redundancy in that datacenter but if said datacenter goes down, there seems to be no backup datacenter. I'd like to see how Apple handles this. Reply
  • slatanek - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    i believe steve says it's the 3rd data center they've build (the one they showed) Reply
  • sidefxv1 - Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - link

    Thanks, I'm glad someone can avoid a knee-jerk reaction... Yes this is pretty much exactly what would worry me about this service. Of course Apple has many very smart people working for them and I don't dispute that at all. And yes, they've spent $1 billion on their new datacentre and I'm sure it's an extremely smart, advanced, shiny datacentre built by extremely smart, shiny people.

    But I have heard nothing about any backup datacentres. Given the fuss they're making about how much they've spent on this one and how huge and great it is, it doesn't sound like they've got any backups with the same capacity\power if something should happen to this one.

    This is the sort of thing that worries me when I entrust my precious data (photos?) to "The Cloud"
    Reply
  • jjj - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    Funny how everything is "cloud" nowdays,it's like the new word for internet or online.Besides that,this service is as crappy as it can be and a lot of waste.Very little storage,a lot of wasted BW and storage space by actually sending the data to multiple devices (and by using CBR for music).Nothing new,nothing interesting,nothing smart. Reply
  • steven75 - Friday, June 10, 2011 - link

    iTunes Match is both new, interesting, and very very smart. $25/year to backup AND raise the quality of every track in my ripped library automatically? Hell yeah. Reply
  • Impulses - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    The comparison to Amazon's MP3 service in particular is pretty disingenuous. No Amazon doesn't have track matching like Apple (a true coup against the music industry), BUT it does let you stream your music to any Android phone or PC (which is just as impressive imo)... Frankly, I'll swallow the hassle of having to upload my relatively small CD collection (<50GB) any day while taking the option to stream it anywhere.

    Also, Apple neglects to mention that Amazon also gives you 5GB for free AND that they offer multiple storage tiers, not just the $50 that Amazon singles out (there's also 20GB for $20, or even 20GB for the price of an album right now and thru the end of the year). Amazon purchases don't count towards your storage space either, just like iTunes.

    I wonder if Apple had to drop streaming as a concession for the library matching feature, I'm sure their talks w/music studios were way more involved than Amazon's who seems to have rushed their service and streaming feature to market (and have, apparently, gotten away with it successfully despite the complaints from at 'least one studio).

    Apple does do a better job of allowing you to sync it all across devices tho, seems you can automate it fully whereas it's mostly manual on Amazon's end right now (doesn't seem like a big deal to me unless you purchase dozens of songs a week).
    Reply
  • Impulses - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    I read an article that stated that Apple may have obviated streaming more as a concession to carriers than music studios but I don't buy that... With the large amount of video streaming that's already going on, and all the radio/music streaming apps like Pandora, one more wouldn't really cause much of a dent. Heck if anything they could control bitrate/bandwith use better than anyone.

    If Apple never intended to implement streaming then the purchase of Lala a couple of years ago makes no sense, Lala was ultimately just another MP3 store, the ability to stream purchased tracks anywhere (they were tied to your account) was what made it unique (you could also buy the right to stream 'em only for like $0.10), and it's the one thing that's entirely missing from iCloud.

    No one else finds that rather intriguing? Personally I liked Lala a lot, RIP Lala. :-/
    Reply
  • XiZeL - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    is this a smart move after all the problems(hacks) sony had with their cloud?

    the cloud market took a big blow with the sony episode.
    Reply
  • Willhouse - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    Is this really "Cloud" computing? It strikes me more of a online storage service with some syncing niceties. Reply
  • realmike15 - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    Unfortunately, I have no use for this. $24.99/year to essentially make my music available in a virtual cloud for downloading (not streaming) is not very innovative. If I imported new music into iTunes and forgot to sync my iPod/iPhone/iPad... shame on me, I guess I'll have to live with not having that music until I get home that day. It still syncs all of my other data wirelessly, including Store purchases.

    The reason the internet has been buzzing about iCloud was the prospect of streaming your catalog from anywhere via the internet. One of the biggest pitfalls right now, is that the storage size on these devices can't keep up with a person's music and movie collection. A streaming cloud services answers this problem, and let's users have all their music with them at all times. I would have gladly paid for a service like this.

    To be fair to Apple, a free iCloud service is awesome. It syncs more data than Exchange, and should be much easier to use as well. iTunes Match on the other hand is a huge disappointment, and until they offer Streaming won't see a dime of my money.
    Reply
  • Griswold - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    I'd like to know why my iphone cant directly sync with my ipad when they're close to one another instead of sending everything to Apple and then d/l it again.

    I'm not asking for the point of icloud, I ask why complicated instead of simple, at least optional?

    Until now, I'm using PhotoSync to sync fotos and videos between iphone and ipad - no clouds involved.. why cant Apple give me that option as well?
    Reply
  • steven75 - Friday, June 10, 2011 - link

    They are. It's called Photo Stream and it's free. Reply
  • phuul - Saturday, June 18, 2011 - link

    The point of iCloud is that it is the ONE TRUE SOURCE of data. Syncing is extremely complicated. So you sync you iPhone with your iPad. Then what happens if your wife/lover/so syncs their iPhone with the iPad? Or you sync the iPad with your computer to get the pictures from a recent vacation?

    As someone who has attempted to implement synchronization of data I can tell you that having one master source simplifies things greatly. Ad hoc syncing between more than two devices or environments will eventually leave you in tears.
    Reply
  • phuul - Saturday, June 18, 2011 - link

    Ok on reflection it should be possible to sync with a local device while simultaneously syncing with iCloud. But the second device would have to be tied to iCloud as well. Reply
  • phuul - Saturday, June 18, 2011 - link

    On further reflection do you always have both devices with you when you take pictures and video? If not then by the time you get to your iPad it will already have the new pictures and video thanks to iCloud.

    To be clear I generally have my iPhone with me while my iPad is at home. This changes during travel but it is the usual scenario. So I take a picture while walking around work. When I get home it will be on the iPad. So to answer your "why complicated" question I say "to make it simple".
    Reply
  • erple2 - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    Cool! With the iCloud, given that it's "cloud computing", I'd like to be able to upload a custom app that can provide services to myself. What? You can't do that? But I thought it was called "Cloud Computing"? Isn't that pretty much the definition of "Cloud Computing"? Oh. You're talking about "Cloud Storage with Sync". Reply
  • psonice - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    cloud computing doesn't mean you get full access to the system necessarily. In this case, it's a cloud platform providing lots of services you get to use. You're free to use them as you please, and you're free to write an application that interfaces with them, but you're not allowed to upload your own applications to run on the cloud. Got that?

    It's like having a mobile phone, and paying to use the mobile network. It doesn't grant you the right to start running your own cell towers, or providing services that run on the network, it gives you the right to make phone calls and transfer data.
    Reply
  • Spivonious - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    Sounds a lot like MS's Live Mesh + Skydrive to me. Aside from the Match service (is it worth $30 to save some bandwidth?), does this "iCloud" offer anything that Mesh+Skydrive don't? Reply
  • steven75 - Friday, June 10, 2011 - link

    There are some similarities but both of those require clients and iCloud works directly with apps on your iPhone/iPod/iPad. There is no client, no setup/config, and no moving files manually--even initially.

    For example, you can restore your iPhone backup from iCloud simply by logging in. You get apps, settings, data, automatically. WP7 can restore stock apps (with no data) and that's it.
    Reply
  • linlijunoo - Tuesday, June 07, 2011 - link

    The website whol esale for many kinds of fas hion sho es,
    like the nik e,jord an,pr ada, the jea ns,shirts,bags,hat and decorations.
    All the products are free ship ping, and the the price is com petitive,
    and also can accept the pay pal pay ment.
    ,after the paym ent, can ship within short time.
    Reply
  • Wellsoul2 - Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - link

    5 GB?

    My crappy $35 MP3 player has 8 GB.

    What's the advantage of this cloud?

    If I had all Apple devices (And the cash to buy them) it would mostly just be instant sync.

    I'll keep my own files. I walk around with 32 GB of storage in my pocket every day so why

    bother with uploads?
    Reply
  • linlijunpp - Wednesday, June 08, 2011 - link

    The website whol esale for many kinds of fas hion sho es,
    like the nik e,jord an,pr ada, the jea ns,shirts,bags,hat and decorations.
    All the products are free ship ping, and the the price is com petitive,
    and also can accept the pay pal pay ment.
    ,after the paym ent, can ship within short time.
    Reply
  • Leonick - Thursday, June 09, 2011 - link

    Apps being able to sync data between devices seems awesome.
    Just think if games can take advantage of this (not new, some iOS games already do and steam has it as a feature) but to have it as a feature available to all iOS developers, awesome!
    Reply
  • Leonick - Thursday, June 09, 2011 - link

    "Your Windows computer will surely be able to take advantage of the iTunes features, but you aren't going to get that seamless access to Photo Stream or mail sync. "

    They said photo stream will be available on windows and I would guess mail will be accessible by Pop3 or imap, if not you still have the web service.

    What you will miss out on are apps syncing, there won't be any windows programs that sync their documents with iOS apps trough iCloud (like iWork does on iOS and OS X)
    Reply
  • linlijunrr - Thursday, June 09, 2011 - link

    The website whol esale for many kinds of fas hion sho es,
    like the nik e,jord an,pr ada, the jea ns,shirts,bags,hat and decorations.
    All the products are free ship ping, and the the price is com petitive,
    and also can accept the pay pal pay ment.
    ,after the paym ent, can ship within short time.
    Reply
  • wanlewanle - Tuesday, July 19, 2011 - link

    Come go and see, will not regret it Oh look

    http://www.ifancyshop.com
    Reply
  • battguide - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link

    Dell 312-0427 노트북 배터리 ,http://www.laptopbattery.kr/battery-p.php/1+replac... Reply
  • battguide - Thursday, October 20, 2011 - link

    【【 IBM ThinkPad X60s 1702 Replacement Laptop Battery ,http://www.laptopinc.com.au/laptop-battery-p.php/1... 】】

    I am very Anxious,because my IBM laptop battery died.Until I find a website of offering high quality brand new discount laptop battery,If you Buy replacement laptop battery at http://www.laptopinc.com.au you will get High quality +Low price+perfect service+100% guarantee+1 year warranty+30 days money back+fast shipping.A high capacity will give your laptop a new life!
    Reply
  • battguide - Sunday, October 23, 2011 - link

    Your satisfaction is our eternal pursuit!

    █田█田█.∴★∵**☆.∴★∵**☆.
    █田█田█∴★∵**☆.∴★∵**☆.—- [[ w w w -( laptopinc )- c o m ](AU)]
    █田█田█.★∵**☆.∴★∵**☆.
    █████.*******************
    === {{w w w }} {{ laptopinc }} {{ com }} {{AU}}====
    Reply

Log in

Don't have an account? Sign up now