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  • jigglywiggly - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    post picture comparisons between the cameras plox, I want to see how good the evo 3d's 5 megapixel rear camera is. Reply
  • Brian Klug - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    I definitely took some 2D and 3D photos with the HTC EVO 3D, however HTC wasn't ready to let me take them quite yet since it isn't final and there's a likelihood things might change on the camera.

    -Brian
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  • Omid.M - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Set up your Picasa account on the phone (or DropBox) and upload photos as you take them...

    I thought you said all qHD panels (in mobile devices) are currently Pentile only? Can you at some point identify what panel(s) HTC is using to give us Pentile-free qHD? I'm really curious.

    The SLCD on the Incredible 2 is beautiful and Pentile free, but not qHD.

    I just wish I could activated the EVO 3D on Verizon. Damn.

    @moids

    P.S. Posted your interview with Uplinq all over the place.
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  • Brian Klug - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Earlier it did look like the qHD panels were all going to be pentile. Now it's looking like only Motorola qHD LCD screens are going to be pentile, and HTC is just going to use an RGB stripe. I got a Droid X2 in last Friday, and compared to the Sensation/EVO 3D, I think RGB stripe wins by a fair margin.

    -Brian
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  • logic_88 - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Where did you get the information that it's a "Super LCD (IPS)" panel? Just curious. Reply
  • Trisagion - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    ... But, where is the Samsung Galaxy S2 review? Come on guys, it's been a month since it launched in Korea. In this global day and age you shouldn't wait for it to hit the U.S before doing a review :) Reply
  • A5 - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    I assume they haven't reviewed the SGS2 because they don't have a review sample. They aren't going to spend $600+ to import a phone when they can just wait and get a review sample for free. Reply
  • Mike1111 - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Why is the iPad in the charts but the iPad 2 (arguably the SoC with the most powerful GPU) is missing? Reply
  • FATCamaro - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Because AT doesn't want to piss of its rabidly anti Apple readers. Amirite? Reply
  • softdrinkviking - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    I think it's cause it's not really the same type of device. This isn't a tablet review. I suppose the iPad was just put there as a point if reference. Reply
  • B3an - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    When are you guys going to review/benchmark the Samsung Galaxy S2? It's probably the most popular and best phone out right now. I know it's not out in the US yet but cant you import one from the UK or Europe? Reply
  • macs - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    I agree.
    I can't wait for Samsung Galaxy S II review because after using it for a month I'm sure it's the best smartphone available and by a huge margin.

    I can't understand why you are so fast to post benchmarks from unfinished devices or developer prototypes like you did at MWC or with Qualcomm MDP but not in a hurry to review what is the most popular and most advanced phone in the world right now (outside US at least).
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  • A5 - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    I assume they haven't reviewed the SGS2 because they don't have a review sample. They aren't going to spend $600+ to import a phone when they can just wait and get a review sample for free. Reply
  • Nataku - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    or, just may be or, the ppl asking for review can donate one to them :D Reply
  • Brian Klug - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Hey, if one of you wants to donate one, I'll gladly review and even return ;)

    -Brian
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  • Brian Klug - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    This is pretty much exactly the reason. I had contemplated buying one and having it imported (it'll even work on AT&T's UMTS bands). We decided to wait for the US carrier (and thus US Samsung) to get them, but it's been taking a while.

    Essentially all the other reviews, even by stateside reviewers, have been of the international version of the phone.

    I agree with what everyone has said though, we need one.

    -Brian
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  • synaesthetic - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Did Samsung learn their lesson? Will this get timely software updates? Is the filesystem EXT4 now instead of that stupid RFS crap?

    Will we see some AOSP (built from the source, NOT cooked Sammy ROMs) custom ROMs?

    If the answers to those questions are yes, yes, yes and yes, then I'm interested.

    Otherwise, the phone could be faster than my laptop and I still wouldn't care.
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  • bplewis24 - Saturday, June 04, 2011 - link

    Well said! Reply
  • bjacobson - Saturday, June 04, 2011 - link

    who cares? They're fully onboard with making unlocked phones, just throw #favoriteROM onto it and be done with it??? Reply
  • synaesthetic - Saturday, June 04, 2011 - link

    Yeah but if some of those questions are no, then we won't see anything but cooked Sammy ROMs.

    I'd like my SGS2 with a side order of CyanogenMod, thanks. :)
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  • dagamer34 - Saturday, June 04, 2011 - link

    International Samsung Galaxy S phones got more timely updates because carriers didn't request for special models which crapware apps that required a delay in updating to newer versions of Android. Reply
  • ph00ny - Saturday, June 04, 2011 - link

    EXT4, i've already received firmware updates twice since the release...

    One of few manufacturers to use unlocked bootloader and there are at least four roms and two oc methods available for the device
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  • will2 - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Agreed. With 1million SGS2 sold in Korea in 1st month, and huge sales in Europe.
    To Anandtech -
    1) although many sites already reviewed SGS2, ever since reading your detailed analysis of the iphone4 antenna problem, I have looked forward to similar quality phone reviews from you.
    2) A problem with existing reviews of the SGS2 & HTC Sensation is, although some of the graphs indicate there is a serious weakness in the SGS2 Mali 400MP GPU compared to GPU's from Imagination, Adreno, nVidia
    We need YOUR review to home in on this and provide useful benchmark comparisons between all the RECENT dual-core SoC Smartphones.
    3) some have pointed out the HTC Sensation has a serious weakness in having only 1GB of internal NAND to run apps, compared to the 16GB internal NAND of the SGS2. The superficial reviewers just say add external SD NAND. We need YOUR view on this.
    4) IMO small -ves on SGS2 are : the SAMOLED+ ideally should be qHD to maintain clarity at 4.3", need for a £25 dongle to view on HDMI, no Camera Shutter button, no FM Record, but overall, a superior phone to the Sensation, even though it does have qHD
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  • bplewis24 - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Regarding #2, it may be problematic for Anandtech to confirm anything because of the speculation about the SGS2 having different SoC implementations for different regions. Remember, the one coming stateside may sport a Tegra2 SoC? Reply
  • Sharro - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Simple question to Anandtech :-)

    The issue of locked bootloaders should be watched closely in the coming months after HTC public announcements, I'm stuck with 2 Incredible S that I can't "mess" with.

    All the best,

    Sharro
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  • EarlyMon - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    The HTC website calls it Super LCD - in keeping with the blogosphere.

    At CTIA this year, they announced that the Evo 3D display was made by Sharp, and repeated it under follow-up questioning.

    Sharp Super Mobile LCD panels are a variant of their ASV technology and are _not_ IPS.

    http://www.sharp-world.com/products/device/about/l...

    http://www.sharp-world.com/products/device/about/l...

    HTC _never_ called this panel Super TFT-LCD, the deprecated name for IPS.

    According to Engadget's report of HTC's press release from last July, the Evo 4G sported the "Sony Super LCD" panel - show of hands - how many of you _actually believe_ there's an IPS panel on the Evo 4G? (Put your hands down.)

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/07/26/htc-makes-super...

    Nowhere I have I ever seen it published from the LCD industry that Super LCD = IPS. In fact, nowhere in the LCD manufacturing sector in Asia do I see the term Super LCD referred to at all as an LCD technology.

    Super LCD is now part of the folklore of marketing. Even Sharp is now calling their ASV as AV Super.

    Can't wait for next year's LCD crop. Those will be Super Duper LCD.
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  • Brian Klug - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Interesting - we had heard from a good source that Super LCD was in fact just IPS being rebranded, but given your CTIA link with the EVO 3D being manufactured by Sharp, it can't be. Thanks for those links, we'll investigate more and find out. I think this is my first time encountering the Super LCD variant.

    -Brian
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  • mevensen - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    How well do these benchmarks reflect full capabilities of the dual core processors?

    I've seen some statements (not sure how credible) that software remains poorly optimized to take advantage of these processors. Is this true? If so, how much are we to take from these comparisons between single and dual core systems, in terms of future performance potential?
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  • metafor - Saturday, June 04, 2011 - link

    These benchmarks are still relevant in that they show the realistic state of relative performance you can expect from these devices. Yes, Android is very poorly optimized and yes, things could run a lot faster if software actually used the hardware capabilities available (i.e. WP7) but that doesn't mean evaluating how fast devices are in the present state isn't useful information. Reply
  • Breit - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Is it possible for future reviews to just add another browser performance chart for the javascript tests (e.g. SunSpider) with an alternative browser (e.g. Opera 11 from the market etc...).
    I just feel that the stock android browser is not up to date on all fronts. This comes from my own experiments with my Samsung Galaxy S2 (Gingerbread 2.3.3.) wich shows for instance in SunSpider a score of ~3300ms on the Android browser and a ~1700ms in Opera 11.
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  • azmodean - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Please tell me I'm not the only person who saw the first picture and had some MAJOR cognitive dissonance trying to figure out why the smartphone had a cassette deck built in. Reply
  • Sarah_ - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Not gonna lie, I thought the same thing! Reply
  • jabber - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Note to smartphone manufacturers. Thanks for giving us ever higher and higher megapixel sensors and HD video capability. Ok we've given up hope of ever seeing more than a 50c lens on any of them but please can you give us greater control of the compression levels applied to pics and video?

    I see so many smartphones with awful pic quality and 720p+ video that looks no better (even worse) than VGA video due to over zealous compression settings.

    Please let me have the choice between being able to take 50 good pics or 500 crappy ones.
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  • vision33r - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    At my work, I have access to virtually every smartphone device popular today. I've yet to find a smartphone that takes pictures/videos as good as an iPhone 4.

    Not kidding. While this will usually bring out a lot of anti-Apple haters and trolls. I've played around with so many Android, Blackberry, Symbian, and even good old dumb camera phones out there sporting 12Mpixel and 720p video.

    I attribute the excellent picture taking and video performance to Apple's software.

    It's such a joke these days that all these powerful devices with dual-core, super fast, and 8Mpixel cameras take grainy and muddy pictures. It's like looking at pictures with art filters FORCED ON.
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  • cjl - Saturday, June 04, 2011 - link

    I haven't tried video yet, but the best pictures I've seen out of any smartphone (including the iphone 4) are from the Samsung Droid Charge. Reply
  • Choppedliver - Saturday, June 04, 2011 - link

    I've got a 20 x 30 print from an 8 megapixel picture taken with my evo 4g. It looks damn good. Your point is taken, but I think you are exaggerating. Tell me what other phone on the market you can make a 20x30 print with and it look good in your living room. Reply
  • ph00ny - Saturday, June 04, 2011 - link

    Since you wanted to bring iphone4 into the "picture"

    http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S...

    Some nokia phones are known for their camera capabilities and another reason why i'm watching this whole microsoft and nokia relationship very closely
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  • NeoteriX - Saturday, June 04, 2011 - link

    Agreed. I'm an Android evangelist and own an Evo 4G (and the Evo 3D on preorder), but the iPhone 4 takes better low light photos than any non-cameraphone I've ever seen. The Evo 4G pales in comparison.

    I think Apple was just bold enough to choose a sensor with a lower resolution, but larger sensor sites. I'm hoping the Evo 3D follows the same path, but I have my doubts.
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  • Lucian Armasu - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    That's pretty underwhelming. How are they going to fight against Tegra 3 that is out in a few months? My guess is they won't be able to match it. Reply
  • Omid.M - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Lucian,

    That's like saying Car A is better to have than B, because the 0-60 is .5 seconds faster...but in daily use, it wouldn't make a difference.

    They don't need to match Tegra 3; they just need to push Gingerbread as soon as possible to be "ahead" of the competition.
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  • mesiah - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    I plan to have an Evo 3D in my pocket the day it is released. If the power draw from the paralax barrier isn't that bad, the battery life on that thing has to be spectacular. And if now.... it is still a cool phone. Reply
  • synaesthetic - Sunday, June 05, 2011 - link

    The Evo 3D's ridiculous gimmick could inadvertently make it one of the longest-lasting smartphones on the market, simply by TURNING OFF the gimmick.

    Really, I don't give a flying rat's behind about 3D on a phone. But that 1730mAh battery, I definitely like that!
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  • PubFiction - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    I agree I am actually very dissapointed that they did not leave the big batteryt in the sensation.

    But the thing is most of the illogical people out there make the biggest deal out of the weight of a phone. like what is it going to tire you out lol?
    And so companies just dont like to put big batteries in because then they cannot claim it is RAZR thin and so on. If someone just I know people with all different phones including iphone4s and no one with a smart phone can get the battery to last all day easily if they use it much.
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  • worldbfree4me - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    I'm glad my Sexy Nexy is standing up to the big boys! Although It lacks a dual core Cpu, it still ranks up there with latest and greatest. Ice Cream should be only 6 months off!! Reply
  • MobiusStrip - Friday, June 03, 2011 - link

    Lenses on a 3-D camera need to be spaced at the normal human interocular distance: about 64mm (2.5 inches).

    These lenses are way too close together to produce correct 3-D. After 150 years of 3-D photography, how do they screw it up now?
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  • synaesthetic - Sunday, June 05, 2011 - link

    I just hope someone writes a Camera app that can take advantage of the two sensors to produce truly awesome focus and sharpness on ordinary 2D photos.

    Who gives a crap about 3D? Gives me a migraine anyway. The concessions HTC had to make in order to facilitate the 3D gimmick might make this a ridiculously awesome phone if the 3D can be completely disabled/excised.
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  • Impulses - Monday, June 20, 2011 - link

    That's what the switch is for... As for the dual cameras, they could be used for some really awesome low-light and HDR photography imo, but the proprietary driver that runs then will probably make it very difficult.

    My Sony point and shoot super zoom has some modes that make use of it's unique burst speeds (CMOS) by combining shots taken at different exposures etc., plus an HDR mode that works in a similar fashion... Even on full auto you can set it to take two shots when appropriate (with and without flash).

    It's all enabled by it's quick burst speed (compared to 90% of P&S) which allows quick capture of multiple images with different settings, the EVO 3D's dual sensors could be used towards the same effect imo.
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  • ph00ny - Saturday, June 04, 2011 - link

    Where are you located? If you're in nyc area, i will gladly let you test drive mine Reply
  • Brian Klug - Sunday, June 05, 2011 - link

    I'm over in Tucson, AZ sadly. Were in NYC I'd definitely take you up on that offer.

    Is it an import?

    -Brian
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  • Caaz - Sunday, June 05, 2011 - link

    I've been wondering... what is the resolution in 3D? The 3D screen of the 3DS renders images at 400*240 pixels, whether it's in 3D or in 2D mode (no visual loss in resolution, the handheld renders two 400*240 images for each eye in 3D (800*240 total)).
    From the article, I understand the EVO 3D works differently, and that there's a loss of resolution when 3D images are displayed (each eye gets 480 pixels instead of 960). I think that's what affected the Optimus 3D as well. Is it the case?
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  • snakestrike39 - Sunday, June 05, 2011 - link

    What was the benchmark scores for the htc evo 3D??? Reply
  • ph00ny - Monday, June 06, 2011 - link

    yeah

    i ordered it from uk on the launch day.
    Reply
  • redmotion - Wednesday, June 15, 2011 - link

    You can get the GL Benchmark results for the SGS2 from the GL Benchmark website. I did several benchmarks when I got my SGS2.

    Sunspider = 3417.1
    Quadrant = 3174
    Linpack = 46.939
    AnTutu = 4485
    Browsermark = 53,938

    Faster in most cases than the Qualcomm MDP 1.5.
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  • pailebaker - Tuesday, June 21, 2011 - link

    I also ordered this device from USA. But i need to pay extra than its actual price. It doesn't matter what i paid. But i am extremely happy to get this device. Reply
  • nitink - Monday, August 01, 2011 - link

    this phone have a great potential unleach its power get full hd games with sd card data..at:
    http://nitin-xyz.blogspot.com/2011/07/free-and-ful...
    Reply

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