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  • SilthDraeth - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link

    I wonder how spill proof the design is. I for one would love that dust, pet dander, food crumps, and the occasional spilled drink wouldn't get under the keys.

    I think the concept is great, I just hope the implementation is, even though I know I won't be buying one of these.
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  • xeopherith - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link

    I can't wait for the follow up. It's not something I would buy but it looks like a neat "toy." Reply
  • iconian6120 - Friday, April 22, 2011 - link

    It is really a toy. Too much to experiment with it. I got mine 4 days ago and still learning. The keyboard is definitely special and not that easy, but same as the iphone or the Blackberry Pearl.
    It is heavy, and battery life is not that good for todays standards. I find it pretty fast.

    i am creating some forum so people can talk about their experiences, problems, and how to improve.

    http://www.iconians.com/forums
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  • marc1000 - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link

    "every so often one of them lets a maniac into their design department", yes, we need more maniacs like these!!!!

    this is a huge ideia, imagine if we could unfold both screens and use it to watch a movie on a really big screen, for example.
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  • Rocket321 - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link

    Its the Kyocera Echo of laptops. Sadly, I think this laptop has a better chance at selling than the echo does. Reply
  • strikeback03 - Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - link

    I thought the same thing. Complete with the fact that updates will probably take forever, as who knows what might break all the custom interaction software/drivers. Reply
  • Belard - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link

    Think is... the OLPEC (One Laptop Per Child group) designed the dual-screen notebook over 3 years ago. It was designed to work like a keyboard (as we see) as well as a tablet or a dual user mode interactive toy/educational aid.

    This looks like it'll be a cool product... but its still shaped like a notebook. The OLPC design is smaller and the 2 halves mirror each other.

    Still... how many of us bang the keyboard in frustration?

    Real Keys work because they are tactile feel. YOU know when you press it... and artificial CLICK noises don't cut it along with the vibration. The fingers can tell you where the keys are and if they are being pressed.

    Now, in a future in which a virtual "feelable" keyboard can be made... that would be cool. But that would be rather expensive... ;)

    There is the LIGHT Projected keyboard - which actually draws a keyboard onto a surface. Needless to say - heavy typing = sore finger tips..

    Try THIS:
    rapidly press two or so keys with your fingers for 10 seconds. Cursor keys will do.
    Then go to your touch phone (asleep) and do the same thing with the same fingers.

    1 - a real keyboard can be hit harder
    2 - yet causes less fatigue on the fingers or hand.

    This is WHY the tablet design works. Light typing (such as a web address and light text entry) is fine.

    On a full size 14" notebook... you might as well have a REAL keyboard and pocket the $600.
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  • aguilpa1 - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link

    I could even deal with a small edge for safety if need be but you designers need to ditch this ginormous bezels, very ugly designs. At least Apple tries to hide them, not that I would buy a Mac but their designers at least get it for the most part. Reply
  • chromatix - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link

    ...and the biggest problem is that you can't feel where the keys are. Nor can you feel where the edges of the trackpad (or it's buttons) are. Typing even as much as an e-mail on this would be a nightmare, if you have advanced beyond the hunt-and-peck stage even slightly. (Full disclosure: I use Model Ms and Cherry MX keyboards daily.)

    The second biggest problem is that the second panel, like the first, is a cheap TN job. You know how horrid the vertical viewing angles are on TN panels... well, this is a TN panel you will *never* be looking at straight-on. So you can't even *see* where the keys are unless you contort yourself into an ergonomically suicidal position.

    This is also why tablets are not a good idea for doing Real Work on.
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  • aguilpa1 - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link

    so true, had they spent the money on a backlit keyboard and a high quality IPS screen instead of another cheap TN, they would have a winner. Reply
  • klatscho - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link

    we did test an early iconia-unit about 2 months ago; while there is a definitive wow-effect to it at first, this is quickly overcome by the drawbacks:
    - the iconia is quite thick and very heavy
    - battery life is below 3hours (-> 2 screens)
    - it feels quite sluggish due to the amount of extra software put on top of win7 (and yes, it's an arrandale i5)
    - our test unit was quite loud, however that might have been resolved in between.

    i do like the concept of having two screens, however an arrandale/win7 combo is simply the wrong platform: plus at a current retail price of ~€1500.- it's just not worth the money.
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  • klatscho - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link

    some specs: Core i5-480M 2x 2.66GHz • 4096MB (2x 2048MB) • 640GB • no optical disk drive• Intel GMA HD (IGP) shared memory • 3x USB (2x USB 2.0, 1x USB 3.0)/Gb LAN/WLAN 802.11bgn/Bluetooth • HDMI • Webcam (1.3 Megapixel) • 14" WXGA Multi-Touch Touchscreen glare LED TFT (1280x800) (2x) • Windows 7 Home Premium (32-bit) Reply
  • MrSpadge - Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - link

    Yehaa for 32 bit on 4 GB!

    MrS
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  • Meaker10 - Tuesday, March 29, 2011 - link

    Having the second screen flippable. On one side it's a screen, the other side has a real computer. Combine it with an easy but durable latch system. You use the second screen for web browsing and light typing but switch to the keyboard to do serious typing. Reply
  • MrSpadge - Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - link

    LOL.. that's what I actually thought it would be at first, when I browsed the images without reading the text.

    MrS
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  • djgandy - Wednesday, March 30, 2011 - link

    Two screens and no mention of resolution?

    know the answer anyway. Two rubbish resolution screens instead of once decent high resolution screen.
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