The demos today were on 2.1 I believe, however HP's site makes reference to 3.0/2.2 (although technically doesn't commit to shipping with those versions as anything could happen between now and Summer). I've removed the version numbers for now until HP officially commits to something.
Btw, how does the displays on the new devices stack up against others? No one is writing which technology is used (presumably because HP hasn't told anyone yet) or even how good they are.Reply
I can't believe HP ditched the best part about the Pixi - its slim and sturdy form factor - while keeping the worst part about it - the 2.6" 320x400 screen. Why would anyone get this over a Pre 2?Reply
Depends on what you mean by performance. Certainly it may benchmark higher but I think there are inherent advantages of dual-core (one process not lagging another) that aren't tangible in graphs.
I think today's 1GHz CPU's are plenty to handle most if not all single-threaded tasks. I'm not sure how noticeable a bump to 1.4GHz would be.
Of course, compared to what Palm had before, this will be lightyears ahead.Reply
Very true. One of the biggest benefits of a multi-core architecture is making up for inefficiencies in any software scheduling algorithms. If a process is incorrectly over scheduled on a single core, the UI thread or other processes may starve. On a dual-core platform, they simply continue executing on the idle core.
Still unhappy about the screen size. The Xoom is the only thing that's coming close to a standard sheet of american paper (8.5 x 11) . All other manufacturers seem to want to go smaller.
If this is going to be used in conjunction with a smartphone/PDA device, then I'm going to want it to be a little bigger. If they just removed the "grip" edges and made the whole thing a screen, i'd be happy.Reply
whats an american size piece of paper tablet going to serve? except give you the dimensions you need. I mean is it really going to matter that few more inches?
It's a multimedia device with the capability of zooming in and out. Its much more portable as well. Im sure eventually companies will have smaller and larger tablets even if some are relunctant to admit it.
you still have a notebook right?
by the way if the whole thing was a screen, how you going to hold it without causing the screen to react unless it only reacts to a stylus like a wacom tablet ;)Reply
The Pre 3 looks great! Finally something to replace my Pre. It's exactly what I want. Just a tad bit larger without being a brick and a little bit more under the hood. Is the Pre 3 going to have 4g? In the slide it says "world phone" and mentions HSPA+ and EVDO. Is the phone going to have both standards or just two versions? It would be nice to have both in one phone just in case you needed to travel to an area that had another standard.
I really have a lot more questions. Are you guys planning a full review just like you gave for the LG Optimus 2X? Please? :)Reply
The Pre 3 is scheduled to be launched sometime this Summer. We'll definitely have a detailed review of the Pre 3 once we gets our hands on one! :) You should expect a review of the Veer before that though.Reply
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NitroTwiek - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
webOS 3.0 in the table? And somehow, Apple's conversion of 730g to imperial units ends up being 0.1 lbs lighter? ReplyAnand Lal Shimpi - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
sorry! fixed!Take care,
Anand Reply
fabarati - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
What? The pre 3 and veer are WebOS 2.2 and the touchpad is WebOS 3.0http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/09/hps-touchpad-sh... Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
The demos today were on 2.1 I believe, however HP's site makes reference to 3.0/2.2 (although technically doesn't commit to shipping with those versions as anything could happen between now and Summer). I've removed the version numbers for now until HP officially commits to something.Take care,
Anand Reply
fabarati - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
Oh, I see. Never mind, then.Btw, how does the displays on the new devices stack up against others? No one is writing which technology is used (presumably because HP hasn't told anyone yet) or even how good they are. Reply
NitroTwiek - Thursday, February 10, 2011 - link
NP... Just glad to see these go up so fast :) ReplyViperV990 - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
I can't believe HP ditched the best part about the Pixi - its slim and sturdy form factor - while keeping the worst part about it - the 2.6" 320x400 screen. Why would anyone get this over a Pre 2? Replydagamer34 - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
My guess is that the Veer isn't meant to compete with the Pre 2, just be a cheaper version of it. Replybplewis24 - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
Can't wait to see how a 1.4GHz chip performs in comparison to the 1.0GHz Tegra SoC and even the Qualcomm 1.2GHz dual core SoC.Brandon Reply
zorxd - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
indeed, 1.4 GHz single core might perform better than 1GHz dual core in most smartphone applications Replymetafor - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
Depends on what you mean by performance. Certainly it may benchmark higher but I think there are inherent advantages of dual-core (one process not lagging another) that aren't tangible in graphs.I think today's 1GHz CPU's are plenty to handle most if not all single-threaded tasks. I'm not sure how noticeable a bump to 1.4GHz would be.
Of course, compared to what Palm had before, this will be lightyears ahead. Reply
Anand Lal Shimpi - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
Very true. One of the biggest benefits of a multi-core architecture is making up for inefficiencies in any software scheduling algorithms. If a process is incorrectly over scheduled on a single core, the UI thread or other processes may starve. On a dual-core platform, they simply continue executing on the idle core.Take care,
Anand Reply
tviceman - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
I have to admit I'm a little disappointed to see HP not adopting Tegra 2, but I'm hooked on webOS so I really hope Pre3 comes to sprint. Replysprockkets - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
Didn't HP get the memo that chicklet keyboards were so 2003? At least the tablet has some promise to it with their good OS. Replymemoroid - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
Until HP releases the price details, IMO, it doesn't deserve a comparison ReplyConficio - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
"touch the Touc?Pad".Thanks for being to simely with this info! Reply
Conficio - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
Thanks for being to *timely* with this info! Replyaustonia - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
iOS, Android, BB OS, WebOS are all on phones & tablets now. where does that leave WP7..? unfortunately named. Replykmmatney - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
I think Microsoft is still trying to shove Windows 7 onto tablets ReplyConficio - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
I'm missing any mention of GPS capability. Does it not have it? ReplyCharonPDX - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
The slide says "Gesture area". What exactly does that mean? Replytipoo - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
It has both. A gesture area at the bottom and a touch screen. Replyvol7ron - Wednesday, February 09, 2011 - link
Still unhappy about the screen size. The Xoom is the only thing that's coming close to a standard sheet of american paper (8.5 x 11) . All other manufacturers seem to want to go smaller.If this is going to be used in conjunction with a smartphone/PDA device, then I'm going to want it to be a little bigger. If they just removed the "grip" edges and made the whole thing a screen, i'd be happy. Reply
Zensen - Saturday, February 12, 2011 - link
whats an american size piece of paper tablet going to serve? except give you the dimensions you need. I mean is it really going to matter that few more inches?It's a multimedia device with the capability of zooming in and out. Its much more portable as well. Im sure eventually companies will have smaller and larger tablets even if some are relunctant to admit it.
you still have a notebook right?
by the way if the whole thing was a screen, how you going to hold it without causing the screen to react unless it only reacts to a stylus like a wacom tablet ;) Reply
bigboxes - Thursday, February 10, 2011 - link
The Pre 3 looks great! Finally something to replace my Pre. It's exactly what I want. Just a tad bit larger without being a brick and a little bit more under the hood. Is the Pre 3 going to have 4g? In the slide it says "world phone" and mentions HSPA+ and EVDO. Is the phone going to have both standards or just two versions? It would be nice to have both in one phone just in case you needed to travel to an area that had another standard.I really have a lot more questions. Are you guys planning a full review just like you gave for the LG Optimus 2X? Please? :) Reply
mythun.chandra - Thursday, February 10, 2011 - link
The Pre 3 is scheduled to be launched sometime this Summer. We'll definitely have a detailed review of the Pre 3 once we gets our hands on one! :) You should expect a review of the Veer before that though. Reply