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  • Bhairava - Monday, December 06, 2010 - link

    Oh come on Google!!! No microsd slot? Really no microsd slot??
    NO MICROSD SLOT?
    Really??? Is that true??
    Oh come on, i cant believe that.
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  • Jedi2155 - Monday, December 06, 2010 - link

    Nothing special here for me other than Gingerbread and NFC. I prefer my Epic 4G although I'm saddened that they only provided Bluetooth 2.1+EDR on the Epic versus 3.0 on the rest of the galaxy phones. Its pretty insane on how different every carriers version of the Galaxy phone is. Reply
  • Bhairava - Monday, December 06, 2010 - link

    Really no microsd slot?!? Really??
    Go to hell Google!!
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  • ssj4Gogeta - Monday, December 06, 2010 - link

    No one's forcing you to buy it, so what's the problem? Reply
  • TareX - Monday, December 06, 2010 - link

    I was saving $600 for this phone. I can't believe I'm passing on the new Nexus... (aka, a Samsung Galaxy S with a flash, without a microSD slot) Reply
  • Gamingphreek - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    For goodness sake, pay attention and read the article before reacting.

    It says no SD Card was INCLUDED. It doesn't say that there is no SD Card *slot*. All they are doing is bringing in support for devices that do not, in fact, have an SD Card slot.

    A little reading comprehension goes a long way...
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  • mesiah - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    Actually, not to sound like an ass or anything, but a little research would show you that there is indeed no SD card slot on the nexus s. Brian may have been a little unclear, but he did say "Gingerbread brings official platform support for devices that lack external storage, instead allowing for internal NAND to be partitioned to emulate a virtual SD card. That appears to be what is done on the Nexus S - there’s no microSD card" So your reading comprehension comment was a little unwarranted.

    That being said, it is disheartening to see android devices move in this direction. an SD slot was always one of the selling points for an android device over an iphone. Although most people aren't going to use 16gb, people that have a large music library or store movies on their SD card are going to shy away from this phone.
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  • Bhairava - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    I agree, i have a 32gb sd on my galaxy 'couse i like to carry my music with me, and this lack on the Nexus S is a big big disappointment. Reply
  • Bhairava - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    No you need to read better, and to let some smugness drop. Reply
  • Shadowmaster625 - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    If you're going to blow $600 on a phone, then why not spend another $100 to buy a dedicated wireless portable storage device? Reply
  • Trefugl - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    If you're going to blow $600 on a phone, then why should you need carry around two devices?

    I would expect my relatively expensive devices to meet my (reasonable) storage requirements either natively or via expansion. I'm not ticked that it's not an option here, but it does affect my decision and I'm leaning elsewhere a little more now.
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  • Bhairava - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    Of course no one is forcing me, dude....but the lack of microsd slot still sucks. Android terminal are better beacouse you can do whatever you want (change battery, expanding storage etc), opposite to the iPhone crap that allows you nothing.
    Now this is the first step into the wrong Apple-like direction.
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  • Cbac - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    Am I missing something? It sounds like the Nexus S doesn't have a microSD card but is there a reason to think that future native 2.3 phones won't have them either? My impression was that the Nexus One wasn't really all that good of a phone vs. manufacturer/carrier specific models but was appreciated in that you got updates much quicker. Why are people talking about a lack of an SD card on this google phone like it's setting the stage for all the others? I mean don't we know that it's already lacking vs. others in that it's not one of the dual core chips we were expecting? Why should it be any different in respect to the lack of an SD slot? Reply
  • Zoomer - Wednesday, December 15, 2010 - link

    Not sure what you are talking about since the Nexus One is a very good device when it came out. Obviously it doesn't beat devices that just came out, but what can?

    I believe it holds its own even amongst newer devices.

    Disclaimer: HTC Desire owner

    Why is there a larger form factor, but with the same screen res, less expansion capabilities? The concave thing seems like a gimmicky waste of space.

    And I can't believe it doesn't support GSM video calling.
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  • Jodiuh - Monday, December 06, 2010 - link

    I'm looking @ a Fascinate right now and it's most certainly not 4" tall. Reply
  • Brian Klug - Monday, December 06, 2010 - link

    Samsung lists the following dimensions for the Fascinate: 4.18” x 2.5” x 0.39” here: (add http) samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/SCH-I500RKAVZW

    I'll have to double check the unit I still have in a second, but I believe the Fasciante is indeed just over 4" tall. ;)

    -Brian
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  • craig0ry - Monday, December 06, 2010 - link

    I'm curious as to why you think they released this specific hardware configuration, as opposed to waiting for dual-core right around the corner, not to mention the Bluetooth 2.1+EDR... This being the "developer" phone for the Android platform, I'm a little confused as to why they would release this seemingly incremental update versus what waiting for what is sure to be a major revolution for the platform...

    Any idea what the plan is here with this specific kit?
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  • TareX - Monday, December 06, 2010 - link

    Exactly. Let's not fool ourselves: This is a Samsung Galaxy S, with a flash, and a new chip with 0 significant uses.... minus the microSD expansion. Reply
  • ssj4Gogeta - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    Don't forget the curved screen :-P Reply
  • strikeback03 - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    Listening to their interviews, it sounds like they use these reference devices in designing the OS. So Google has probably had these around for months, and probably didn't want to wait to have next-gen SoCs before they could make serious progress on the OS. Which could also help explain why they showed off a tablet running Honeycomb at the same time they announced Gingerbread, we might see that even more quickly than the usual gap between version releases for Android. Reply
  • TareX - Monday, December 06, 2010 - link

    Where do I start.... the plastic case with the ugly bump at the back? The SINGLE CORE A8 PROCESSOR, in 2011? No microDS expansion? No LED notifications?

    GB also disappointed, massively: No multimedia app, no Gmail video chat, no UI GPU acceleration, no tabbed browsing as rumored...etc

    The only impressive thing is the curved Super AMOLED with insane contrasts. That's it.

    Let's hope the Olympus has a comparable screen.
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  • bplewis24 - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    You say no UI GPU acceleration, but Brian states the following:

    "Gingerbread’s UI brings GPU accelerated animations onboard and will likely provide some speedup to the interface."

    Is that different from what you were referring to?

    Brandon
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  • thernus - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    GPU accelerated UI was one of the features i really wanted with 2.3 (hell i wanted it with 2.1 on my nexus one.

    this article is the only one i have seen talking about it.

    Brian can you please clarify this? watching the video clips they talk about the garbage collection for apps and the GPU stuff games im really hoping there is a noticable speed increase

    its really stupid in this day and age that android doesnt have it. Apple has is winmo7 has it, palm finally might get it after more than a year of promising (I had a pre and it was way to small and laggy i actually gave it away!)

    if android doesnt get it soon im jumping back to a iphone or going over to a winmo7 phone when i look to get another phone in 6months time the jittery lag on the N1 kills the experience to much.
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  • Brian Klug - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    At this point, it's a bit unclear. There's definitely GPU acceleration for most animations now, and the UI in general is supposed to be much smoother. I'm not clear yet on whether all of the UI is 100% GPU accelerated, for that I'm waiting to get a device in-hand.

    I'm just uncertain how much of this menu smoothness is attributable to the Dalvik VM doing much faster/opportune garbage collection (which Google is claiming was responsible for a lot of that trademark Android stuttering when just scrolling through menus or webpages), and how much of that will be sped up purely from having a leaner UI with more GPU accelerated animations.

    Stay tuned, I'm going to try and find out.

    -Brian
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  • tipoo - Saturday, December 11, 2010 - link

    "The SINGLE CORE A8 PROCESSOR, in 2011? "

    Wut? Are there any smartphones using a dual core processor right now? Yeah, dual core A9's are right around the corner, but phones are in development for months before release.
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  • bplewis24 - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    "long-press to select accented characters (which sounds almost identical to iOS's implementation)"

    Android has had that since at least 2.1, if not sooner.

    Brandon
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  • MacTheSpoon - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    That's weird. Samsung's numbers are off. Verizon lists the specs as 4.92" (H) x 2.53" (W) x 0.39" (D). I pulled out my ruler and Verizon is right; the Fascinate is actually nearly 5" tall. Verizon also gives the weight as 4.16 oz., or 118 grams, which is a good ten grams less than Samsung's number. I'm guessing Verizon is right about the weight as well, because my Fascinate has to be more than 10 grams lighter than the iPhone 4s I've used. Reply
  • Brian Klug - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    Indeed, I think you're right in that regard. I just measured this Fascinate and it appears to be at least 4.875" tall. I'll update the article+dimensions. Awesome catch!

    -Brian
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  • rigamortis - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    I bought the nexus one when it first came out , i was so excited. Then i slowly started to realize that T-mobile kills the phone. The single worst carrier on the planet. I could go on for days on this since my wife and their parents have the family plan. I went back to sprint. Love the phone, hate T-mobile and ATT.

    eVo 4G owner
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  • MacTheSpoon - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    Thanks for being responsive to reader feedback, Brian! You rock. Reply
  • thernus - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    thanks for the response, I would love to know. Reply
  • sonci - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    Smb tell me please I can put 2.3 on my Galaxy S,
    because that would be the end of the lagging,
    If the hardware is the same we can put Nexus software instead waiting for Samsung to update..
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  • evilspoons - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    Welllp, I'm still waiting for 2.2 on my Galaxy S Captivate so 2.3 will be at an unofficial level...

    Maybe they're going to surprise everyone with a Galaxy S and just skip 2.2 and go straight to 2.3? Hahaha.
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  • blueF - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    Pretty sure someone on XDA released 2.2 for non rooted captivates. I also think it was baked by samsung, just not officially released yet. Reply
  • bjacobson - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    Great preview of Gingerbread.

    NFC is for an alternative payment method (to mastercard/visa/etc) from what I understand.
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  • ss4rob - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    You mention the Nexus S is just like a Galaxy S phone except it adds LED flash, a gyroscope and a front facing camera. I believe my Epic 4G has all of those things except obviously NFC.

    http://www.bgr.com/2010/07/26/sprint-samsung-epic-...
    http://www.androidcentral.com/gaming-sprint-epic-4...

    Can you clarify?
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  • blueF - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    I think that the epic is the only galaxy S phone with a front camera out of 10 or 11 galaxy s variants. Most of the galaxy phones are the same thing with a different case, but the epic (with its 4g, physical keyboard, and front camera) should really be in a class of its own. Reply
  • jdworth - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    The new Android keyboard might be an improvement, but don't really want to give up Swype which I have on my Vibrant. Reply
  • blueF - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    From my experience with the new android keyboard (hacked onto my N1) it is superior to Swype and HTC IME in landscape mode, but in portrait mode swype still rocks. Wonder if I can use tasker to switch keyboards depending on the phone orientation. Reply
  • wintermute000 - Tuesday, December 07, 2010 - link

    Have you tried SlideIT?
    I went from swype to SlideIT after one of the beta updates broke on my N1. Never looked back. You know how sometimes swype lags? SlideIT never lags and aside from that its pretty much the same, except you don't 'double twirl' to do double letters (it auto detects it) and the auto-fill is much less intrusive (I prefer it).

    any soft keyboard for me has gotta have a 'swype-like' functionality I'm so used to it now lol
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  • ekerazha - Thursday, December 09, 2010 - link

    Why don't you say that Android (stock) still doesn't support proxy configuration for Wi-Fi connections? It's still impossible to use the Wi-Fi network at university etc. Every other mobile OS (my 10-year-old Nokia included) do have proxy support. Reply
  • Jkm3141 - Thursday, December 09, 2010 - link

    The one I cant understand is still no CDMA option? REALLY? Googles home market is the US, WHY would you limit yourself to T-Mobile. If its really a phone to end all phones, throw in CDMA/GSM and make it a world phone, simple as that. Reply
  • titexinex - Saturday, December 11, 2010 - link

    i love this mobile and its features and looks also ! i think this has all needs than others.
    http://burnxtreme.org/
    Reply
  • _Aurel_ - Wednesday, December 15, 2010 - link

    I swear, one of the biggest 'noob' mistakes that reviewers pull is leaving Flash 'On' instead of 'On-Demand' in the browser settings and then complaining that it chugs. Let me ask you something... WHY ON EARTH IS IT EVER A GOOD IDEA TO LEAVE FLASH ON. SO YOU CAN WATCH ADVERTISEMENTS. NO YOU LEAVE IT OFF AND IF YOU WANT TO WATCH FLASH-CONTENT YOU TOUCH THE AREA THAT ITS IN. I loaded up your webpage Brain with Flash as 'On-Demand' and it actually panned and scroll just fine without much noticeable lag. Reply
  • CreateAccount - Tuesday, December 21, 2010 - link

    they're not good at every review, news are slow, everyday there's no new post or news.
    yet they call themselves your source for hardware analysis and news. They just DON'T do review thoroughly.

    Someone pay them to review for all of their article. There must be some script ready or guideline for what they can say. So much hard this days just to find a reviewer which stick soulfully,loyally to their own opinion. If you are so scare of those manufacturer never send product for you to review, F*K them! Use your ads income to buy product to test and also ask from your friend that own computer retailer shop or any of your readers that are in this business to lend u a product for review purpose.

    Just How Hard Could It Be ??????????????????

    darn.. where is the battery life review?

    oh, I'm here for the comment only. The comments are far more sincere and interesting. I still like the old anandtech thou.

    time shift, people change... bye bye anandtech..
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