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  • DigitalFreak - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    No end-user upgradeable firmware = no sale Reply
  • semo - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    There are a whole lot of other SSDs on the market that make no sense but exactly why did a barefoot one appeared on AT is puzzling.

    This product might have had relevance a year ago but not today
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  • ggathagan - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    Relevance?

    Other than the OCZ Enyo, Iomega and the forthcoming Kingston that Rajinder mentioned, how many other external SSD's with a USB 3 interface are out there?

    How about any other SSD that can be used both as an internal SATA drive and an external drive with a USB 3 interface?
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  • semo - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    It may have some relevance as a USB 3.0 drive (very niche considering you can buy very fast and slightly smaller USB 3.0 pendrives) but it is totally pointless as an internal drive. It would have to drop to at least half the price of a SF or Intel controller powered drive before it makes sense as a SATA drive.

    It is a barefoot drive... I don't know how were they priced in the states but here in the UK barefoot drives used to cost MORE than the X25s. I really hate Indilinx for failing to provide a decent competition when it was needed the most. They deserve all the ass whopping coming their way...
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  • bji - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    Sounds like you're speaking from a context of having a bone to pick with Indilinx rather than an objective analysis of the drive.

    The performance looks decent in many respects and this drive could be just fine for many different types of workloads. Indilinux-hating aside, I don't see how anyone could possibly claim that there is no value to this drive. And your comments about the Indilinx controller drives being half the value of same-size Sandforce and Intel controller drives is way off-base.

    Also, I'd like to know what pen drives you are talking about that can read/write hundreds of megabytes per second sequentially, and read 37 megabytes per second randomly.
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  • semo - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    http://www.engadget.com/2010/11/26/super-talent-us...

    This is a very fast USB 3.0 pendrive and is smaller than the reviewed product here (note that I never said it is faster).

    Don't tell me that you would prefer a barefoot SSD over SF, Intel or Toshiba? Many people have said that there is a tangible difference of performance between the vertex (1) and x25s and considering that they were more expensive (at least here in the UK), I fail to realize the relevance of barefoot controllers in this day and age. We're yet to see how the updated barefoot behave but with imminent updates coming from Intel and SF, I don't think this would matter much.
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  • bji - Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - link

    You said before that the drive was "totally pointless as an internal drive". That is the comment that I have issue with. It is not pointless, it just has performance and cost characteristics that make it suitable for some workloads and not others.

    Also, the pen drive you linked to costs $599 for 128 GB. And the only customers reviews I could find on it are not positive (losing connectivity with the device repeatedly, possibly due to USB power draw issues). So I don't really think you can use that drive as any kind of foil to compare the Indilinx drive against.
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  • piroroadkill - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    The way I remember it, Indilinix DID provide relief in a way, and that was relief from the horror of the jmicron drives, and not necessarily the Intel ones. Reply
  • bji - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    Yes, if there is a company that is worthy of your scorn, it is surely JMicron, and not Indilinx. JMicron really should have been sued out of existence for their faulty designs (not just SSDs either, their other controllers have been buggy and problematic also). Reply
  • Nataku - Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - link

    no offense... but... how many users do you know that actually bothers with firmware update unless something is broken?

    I know I don't usually bother with it...
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  • SteelCity1981 - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    You'd think that paying that much for a 128gb SSD portable USB 3.0 hard drive would at the very least include frimware updates. I mean, this isn't some random 45 dollar HDD 120gb Portable USB 2.0 hard drive we are talking about here. Reply
  • StormyParis - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    thoughput and latency are fine and all, but in my experience USB is mainly about very sucky CPU usage.

    a test on that front, with various chipsets, would be faaaaaabulous.
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  • jaydee - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    I'd be interested in seeing some numbers using eSata via an external enclosure. Reply
  • StormyParis - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    any SSD can do that, and the results will be the same as an internal one. Reply
  • Qapa - Monday, November 29, 2010 - link

    1 - Probably the most important one: when are we going to see the promised price cuts due to the move to lower nm? It was supposed to be this quarter right...?

    2 - When is the Jet Stream now supposed to come out?

    3 - I read somewhere that Intel G3 was put on hold due to the presentation of SandForce 2000 series?

    4 - When is this SandForce 2000 series expected to come out?

    I want a new generation SSD with 64Gb @ around $64!! (yes, this one is not really a question.. :P)
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  • mpx - Tuesday, November 30, 2010 - link

    It would be interesting to find out how well such USB 3 SSDs perform as ReadyBoost caches. Or caches with other products - NVELO Dataplex, eBoostr. Reply

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