ASUS Eee PC 1005PE: Pineview Arrives

by Jarred Walton on 12/21/2009 12:00 AM EST
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  • JOEyGADGET - Friday, January 29, 2010 - link

    I bought a 100PE thinking I could use eeectl to boost the screen brightness to the ultrabright setting the way I boosted the brightness on previous ASUS netbooks. However eeectl ultrabright setting has no effect. Anyone know how to force the 1005PE to turn on or activate ultrabright setting? At its brightest setting the 1005PE is simply too dim for my eyes. Suggestions welcome and appreciated. Thanks, JOEyGADGET Reply
  • ProDigit - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - link

    I totally stopped reading after page 4, where the results became opposite of tomshardware results, and opposite of logic.
    The memory controller is on chip, and yet it's slower than a separate?
    Don't make me laugh!

    Really, for benchmarks you don't need to be with anandtech, for they just paste some stupid numbers there that won't make any sense whatsoever!
    Then again, tomshardware is only interested in running 3D mark and Crysis tests!
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  • whatthehey - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - link

    You, sir, are a moron if you are going to compare the THG article with this one. Unless I'm mistaken, the only Pine Trail article is this one:
    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/atom-d510-d510...">http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/atom-d510-d510...

    See the problem? One, they're testing D510, not a netbook. Two, they don't have results for old Atom N280 and new Atom N450. Three, you're trusting THG, a site known to have sold out on too many occasions to even begin to count, just like HardOCP.

    Which results in this article are wrong? PCMark is all over the map, which as they point out is pretty much par for the course. Don't trust PCMark05, and there aren't any meaningful points of comparison for Vantage. They would need to show other netbooks with Windows 7 Starter, and they don't have that here.

    In short, to be "opposite" of some other site, they actually have to compare the same sort of hardware. AnandTech has a separate D510 article, but D510 isn't a netbook. Looks to me like the N450 has no reason to be faster. Same cache instead of the desktop, where the D510 has twice the cache size compared to 330.

    Please take the THG trolling and go elsewhere. THG ceased to be relevant right around the time that Thomas Pabst stopped being the head honcho.
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  • foolsgambit11 - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - link

    It looks like in the next couple years, we'll see Atom-derivatives relegated to MIDs and CULV-derivatives taking it's place for netbooks/nettops. I think this was Intel's stated objective for Atom from the beginning, right? Reply
  • geok1ng - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    The very simple reason that Pineview sucks soo much is that Intel want to push the crappy GMA 3150 and the sluggish 4500HD down our troats. Another point for the Asus UL80vt, Dell 14z, Ions. The consumer cant have both products:a good GPU and a good enough CPU. Reply
  • Fanfoot - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    I'm surprised that Intel had the GMA 500 core available to them, yet the GPU they've paired with the N450 is still so anemic. The battery life is certainly nice, but the inability to play HD Flash is seriously questionable. Reply
  • piroroadkill - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - link

    GMA500 is a decent product with godawful driver support Reply
  • Shadowmaster625 - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    Sempron M100 is lurking about out there. And I cant find much of any info on it. Can you guys try to find and review a Sempron M100 notebook with HD4200 graphics and a decent size battery? If you do can you play around with underclocking/undervolting it? Reply
  • JarredWalton - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    I've been trying to get *any* of the 45nm AMD laptops. I'll continue working on it, as I'm quite interested in seeing what they can do for power reqs. Turion II Ultra + HD 4200 seems like it should at least be competitive with dual-core ION (i.e. ASUS 1201N), but I'm not sure AMD is going to get power requirements down low enough. Reply
  • MamiyaOtaru - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    "When Intel released the Atom CPUs, netbooks received a dramatic boost in performance and battery life"

    Battery life, yes. Performance, not so much. In single threaded apps, the Celeron was faster than the Atom. Overall, having that second thread was nice, but raw performance wasn't helped so much
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  • krazyderek - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    the last two sentences pretty much sum it up for me. Reply
  • thornburg - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    I'm used to articles on Anandtech being more scientific and thorough than some of the recent fare, and particularly this article.

    If you're speculating about the differences between Win7 and XP causing performance issues, why not install the same OS on both machines and try it? It's silly and unprofessional to speculate when there is a fairly simple way to test.

    What's the story? Why leave the topic only half investigated?

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  • Zero110 - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    I imagine it's for the same reason that the battery life tests are "half-done." Limited time, and over a weekend no less. They'd rather have this and updates down the road then get scooped by every other tech site. Reply
  • JarredWalton - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    Yeah, that's about it. Working over 24 hours over a weekend to post an article like this stinks, especially when it's close to Christmas. So I ran as many tests as I could squeeze in.

    More than that, there's really nothing special about the PCMark results. The detailed results table tells us what we need to know in most areas: Pineview is similar to Diamondville in most areas, and HDD, RAM, and other system components come into play with a composite score like PCMark. It's really not a big improvement from previous Atom designs, outside of the battery life issue.
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  • Zero110 - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    I actually wasn't expecting any updates this morning because of the season. I guess Intel screwed you on that one. For what basically amounts to a non-event for most people. But, thanks for all the hard work. Merry Christmas to you, and wish everyone else on the staff a Happy Soonest Applicable Holiday. Reply
  • crimson117 - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    quote:

    Working over 24 hours over a weekend to post an article like this stinks, especially when it's close to Christmas.


    And especially for such an underwhelming product... ;)
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  • R3MF - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    Hi AT team,

    How come the 3250 is SOOOOOOO bad?

    I know the GMA 3100 is pretty rubbish, but it was way better than the GMA 950, but that isn't apparent today.

    How has this come to pass?
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  • JarredWalton - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    The X3100 was a much bigger step up from the 3100. X3100 is DX10 (supposedly -- drivers make this a questionable claim), and it has 8 pixel shaders vs. 4 on the 3100. When you couple an IGP like GMA 3100 with a single channel memory controller in a netbook, you cut bandwidth to the system in half, and it was already a limiting situation. The net result is that GMA 950 and 3150 are about the same, which is to say they're junk. Reply
  • R3MF - Tuesday, December 22, 2009 - link

    Thanks for the info, didn't know that. :)

    Regards
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  • SilthDraeth - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    Just wondering, and would this chip work in the Ion platforms? Reply
  • JarredWalton - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    You could use a discrete GPU and hybrid graphics (with Win7) to get ION 2. I think that's what NVIDIA will announce in the near future. For ATI, they would be doing the same thing. At present, there's no way to get Pine Trail/Pineview without the GMA 3150 baggage. What's really annoying is that GMA 500 had the necessary DXVA hardware with even less 3D power than GMA 950. Pineview should have been 4500 + DXVA but instead we got GMA 950 on 45nm. Reply
  • AmdInside - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    No because NVIDIA does not have a DMI bus license (nor ATI).

    I would like to see an Asus 1201N review. While I would prefer a 10" screen with an ION chipset, I may go with the Asus 1201N before Intel stops producing the first generation Atom processors. I really want a nice portable video player that doubles as a versatile notebook.
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  • JarredWalton - Monday, December 21, 2009 - link

    The Pineview launch preempted the 1201N review, which otherwise would have been posted by now. Expect it later this week. Reply

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