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  • Etern205 - Saturday, August 02, 2008 - link

    For those who wonder who is this Shamino person check out VR-Zone
    and for those with those Asus ROG boards in the motherboard disc there is a overclocking video with him in it.

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  • at80eighty - Saturday, August 02, 2008 - link

    threadjack a hardware thread about Linux?

    get some sunlight! :p
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  • steveyballmer - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    This should run with Vista quite nicely!

    http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com">http://fakesteveballmer.blogspot.com
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  • sprockkets - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    Every foxconn board I've had either dies or is poorly made in software. My AMD nForce4 board could not shut down properly every so often, couldn't keep the correct time, and other things.

    Doesn't mean this board is bad hardware wise. But, if so many of their boards cannot keep the right time or report the right settings, that shows poor BIOS programming. Not wasting my money on the big generic OEM maker.
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  • BPB - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    Only 6 SATA and 2 eSATA is not enough. I want at least 8 SATA for a board like this, then start talking eSATA. Reply
  • strikeback03 - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    ICH10R only supports 6 SATA, so not like you could have more than 6 drives in a RAID array anyway. If you really need more drives than that, why not a card? Reply
  • NicePants42 - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    [quote]The water-cooling top plate is anodized aluminum. Contrary to "popular belief", the chances of galvanic corrosion with this setup are miniscule and there should be no cause for concern. Galvanic corrosion can take years to manifest, and a suitable additive in some distilled de-ionized water should provide ample protection.[/quote]

    I appreciate that the author was astute enough to include specific information about the material of the top plate, however, the reader is left to his/her own assumptions regarding the material of the water block itself - sure, it looks like copper, but so did the cooling solution on the popular ABIT IP35-Pro.

    I also find the author's defense of anodized aluminum out of place; if we are to assume (as the article seems to suggest) that only the top plate is made from aluminum, while the rest of the block is made from copper, it seems that the use of aluminum is indefensible, regardless of how technically correct the author's assertions on galvanic corrosion may be. Why, after spending all the money on high quality components, gobs of included 'extreme benchmarking' extras, and a large copper cooling solution, would the designers decide that they couldn't afford the extra dollar for a copper top plate, but would rather introduce the possibility (however remote) of slowly destroying any attached liquid cooling solution?

    Galvanic corrosion can take years to manifest? For how many years have people been paying over $120 for PA120.3s? Or $40 for MCW60s? Or $75 for a D5 Vario, etc? I, for one, would think that the author would better serve his readers by questioning the use of potentially harmful materials, (especially when the use of such materials appears to be unjustified) rather than presuming to dictate the reader's priorities concerning such.
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  • iop3u2 - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    I was waiting for a foxconn ad the last few days and you sure as hell didn't disappoint me. Reply
  • tayhimself - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    Who needs a $500 Mobo? I am really confused as to the people buying this stuff. Reply
  • NicePants42 - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    It generally helps to check Newegg before posting about price.

    Considering that many current X48 motherboards are selling between $250 and $300, $330 after MIR is hardly unreasonable for this board.
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  • DigitalFreak - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    "extreme benchmarking"

    ROFLMAO! What a bunch of losers
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  • ImmortalZ - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    You do realize these people are given QX9770s, GTX280s and assorted hardware for free, every generation?

    Do you know most of these people end up working for the very manufacturer's products they torture test?

    Do you know that you're a moron?
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  • strikeback03 - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    Personally, I'd rather grow a mullet, buy a Mustang, and head for the local drag strip. Reply
  • Berger - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    'Digital Freak' what a freaking handle.

    No need to be discriminative you narrow minded moron.

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  • Nyarlathotep - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    I used to really like linux but the more posts I´ve read by linux users, the more I hate it. Linux nerds probably get paid by Microsoft for ruining linux chances. They are everywhere whining and crying. For every decent linux user there seem to be 5 obnoxious nerds.

    Yesterday I uninstalled Ubuntu from my laptop because it made me feel like if I supported obnoxious linux nerds. If it wasn´t for them linux would probably be the most popular OS right now, not windows.
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  • TA152H - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    One thing I have been saying for 25 years, and has been validated by the years is that Unix will never be a popular operating system. Linux often mentioned by people that don't really use it that much, they want to whine about Microsoft and such, or at a higher level, whine about the establishment in general. Don't get me wrong, I despise Microsoft too, but I'm not so pathetic as to act like Unix is the answer. It's a horrible operating system that's a pain in the backside to work with. They can sugar coat that dung all they want, but it will always smell and will only be a niche product. GUIs help some by insulated the user from the miserable underpinnings, but, really, anyone that likes the word "grep", and thinks upper and lower case parameters should have different meanings, is generally going to be a maladjusted dickhead.

    I still think OS/2 was better than Windows, but it's very much a niche product now (in its new incarnation as Ecomstation) and is used about as often as rotary telephones. I whined for a while about Windows too, but mainly because all my work experience had been with OS/2, and I didn't want to be jobless :-P.

    No one really listens to the whining dorks that cry to the sky about foul play. Linux isn't popular because, basically, it sucks like all Unix varieties do. They'll exist in niches, but you can't expect the mainstream market to embrace it. Apple did a good job of hiding the difficulty of the underlying operating system, but it's still a niche product as well. Even if there were a good operating system it would be extremely difficult to break the software monopoly of Microsoft, so saying a Unix variety would be the dominant operating system were it not for some oft-ignored dweebs, is as silly as the whiners are.

    We've already gone from MVS, to DOS, to Windows NT as the dominating operating systems during the lifetime of Unix. It's always been a niche product. Outside of the Microsoft haters, do many people really want it to be anything more than that? It's a pity IBM still won't make OS/2 open source. It would at least have a chance as an open source competitor. Unix? Never. But, as has been the case for 30 years, you'll still hear them saying it's just about to take off. It never changes, and kind of gives one a sense of security in a world that changes too fast. Unix will take over soon! Just wait! It's even money if it will happen before the Sun eats the Earth.
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  • swaaye - Friday, August 01, 2008 - link

    :) Reply
  • yyrkoon - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    Look. You should be using your OS of choice for YOU, not anyone else.

    The whole idea is HAVING the ability to make that choice.

    I use Windows on my main machines here at home, but I like the option of being able to use which over OS I please on them, and yes, I have a couple of Linux boxen too, as well as an openSolaris machine. Hell, I would not be adverse to putting OSX on my own hardware, IF Steve Jobs and Apple will ever pull its head out of their backsides . . . In a general purpose computer world, proprietary systems are the 'bad guys' not the OS.
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  • yyrkoon - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    http://ubuntu-virginia.ubuntuforums.org/showthread...

    Companies need to learn that business tactics as such will put you into a world of hurt in a hurry. Behold the wonderful internet at its finest.
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  • swaaye - Friday, August 01, 2008 - link

    Just how much of an audience in the real world do you think slashdot gets? lol. Reply
  • swaaye - Friday, August 01, 2008 - link

    or any site, for that matter. Reply
  • yyrkoon - Monday, August 11, 2008 - link

    You sir have obviously not heard of the term of "being slash-doted", but lets just say many hosts dread having links to their machines being on slash-dot because of the sheer volume of traffic that is caused on the host end.

    Either way, I never said anything about slash-dot so . . .
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  • DrMrLordX - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    Seriously:

    http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/25/...">http://linux.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=08/07/25/...
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  • Rajinder Gill - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    And in response,

    http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php...">http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php...

    read post 61.

    regards
    Raja

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  • DrMrLordX - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    This matter isn't settled, but it is being argued by others in other forums where such things will be discussed in greater detail than they will here. Don't expect it to go away so easily. Reply
  • whatthehey - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    In order for it to go away, it just needs to be fixed. That shouldn't be too difficult. And then all the millions of Linux enthusiasts that run top-end $400 motherboards with heavy overclocking can rest easy.

    Wait! What's that you say? Most home Linux users are running hand-me-down $200 systems? Hmmm.... Can't imagine why they aren't a priority.
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  • DrMrLordX - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    I put Xubuntu on my X2-3600+ system when it was brand new and pushed the chip to 3.2 ghz (stable) at one point. $200 hand-me-down? Nah.

    The fact that there are fully-suported flavors of Linux out there that can run on a cheap-as-in-free system from ten years ago is a plus, but it doesn't mean you have to run Linux on a system like that.
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  • yyrkoon - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    I think you're a bit confused. Nothing like stereotyping whole groups for our own enjoyment though eh ? Reply
  • yyrkoon - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    Those threads are bogus. There is NOTHING innocent regarding pointing 5 versions of Windows to the right tables, while having the Linux table point to an invalid region of memory, thus causing lock ups and instabilities. Reply
  • yyrkoon - Saturday, August 02, 2008 - link

    FOXCONN has seen the error in their ways whether intentional or not. This is a boon for both FOXCONN, and linux users a like.

    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=877721">http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=877721

    Regardless of whatever OS/Hardware I choose, it is very good to know that a company such as FOXCONN is a company that listens to its customers(eventually).
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  • MamiyaOtaru - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    Yeah, they screwed up. But seriously, follow the threads. The one on Ubuntu forums where it all seems to have started lead to someone from the company replying, saying someone screwed up and that they would be fixing it.

    The initial tech support guy's response was not what one would want to hear, but in the end it was just a lowly tech support guy.

    Seriously, it was good to get steamed when it looked like they were deliberately screwing people over, but the need has passed. Keep some pressure on to make sure they actually follow through, but perpetual nerdrage isn't doing any good now that the issue is acknowledged and scheduled for a fix.
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  • elfguy - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    I disagree. A company that gets called on a screwed up practice, and gets tons of bad press, will always try to justify itself and if they see potential profit loss, they will say whatever they can to calm things down. We still don't know for sure if it was intentional or not, we only have their word for it.

    If they had not been called on it, things would have stayed broken. Many companies do screwed up things, and the best thing we can do is show them that look, you go against your customers needs, and you will suffer for it, in the only way they care about, that is loss sales. So I say support your alternative OSes, boycott Foxconn.
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  • AmberClad - Thursday, July 31, 2008 - link

    Good luck on trying to boycott Foxconn. The vast majority of their business is not in retail motherboards -- it's in the manufacturing of game consoles, cell phones, and various electronic components. Any motherboard you buy from another manufacturer is more than likely going to have some Foxconn components in them. Reply

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