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  • LostPassword - Monday, February 04, 2008 - link

    when are you guys going to actually review it? Reply
  • Mazen - Monday, March 17, 2008 - link

    Would be nice to finally see that review Reply
  • Mazen - Monday, January 28, 2008 - link

    Thanks for that article. I would love to see you guys pushing these cards at 2560x1600 resolution when decoding a H.264 or VC-1 to see if they are powerful enough to manage 1600p. I think that AMD put out in their press release that the 3450 will have hiccups at 1440p but that the 3470 will be able to manage that resolution just fine. Can we please please (pretty please) see if these card will handle decoding at that resolution? Reply
  • dvijaydev46 - Thursday, January 24, 2008 - link

    Why isn't there a review on those newest ATI products yet? legitreviews has responded to it long ago. Reply
  • eye smite - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    First of all, yesterday on dailytech the sister site to this one, in the daily reviews section are websites already reviewing the HD3870X2 card and it showing in most benchmarks a noticeable lead of the top nvidia card.

    Second, if ATI gives anandtech a card to test last, who can blame them. I mean after all they published a review on the phenom that was more a rant than a review on the cpu. I say up the ra to the editors and writers at anand. I come here for a good laugh from time to time, but reading your articles for the last few months has me rating you in the same class as gizmodo and what they did at CES 2008. Hope you all go back to journalistic basics and become a reputable site like Tom's Hardware again one day.
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  • AssBall - Thursday, January 24, 2008 - link

    I say up the ra to the editors and writers at anand. I come here for a good laugh from time to time, but reading your articles for the last few months has me rating you in the same class as gizmodo and what they did at CES 2008. Hope you all go back to journalistic basics and become a reputable site like Tom's Hardware again one day.
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    I LoL'ed. Toms Hardware rofl... That was a good one!
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  • StormEffect - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    I'm also curious how these cards will compete with the current Nvidia low and mid range cards. Until the G92 refresh hits those segments, it looks like ATI will be leading those markets.

    Also, the 3870 X2 utilizes internal crossfire. Games do not need crossfire compatibility to run on the 3870 X2. The card appears as a single GPU to the OS. There are already reviews for the 3870 X2, and it looks as though ATI has taken the crown in a few benchmarks.
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  • djc208 - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    I'm looking forward to how these actually handle HD playback. I stayed away from the 2400 in my HTPC because the benchmarks said it wasn't quit powerful enough for HD playback.
    If the $50 3450 can handle H.264 playback at HDTV resolutions with no issues I can skip the $250 SageTV HD extender and use that money for the new Hauppage HD capture card and one of these instead.
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  • Slash3 - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    I4U has a review of the Radeon HD 3450 HTPC (passive cooling, low profile) up here:

    http://www.i4u.com/section-viewarticle-368.html">http://www.i4u.com/section-viewarticle-368.html

    It looks like it offloads a significant amount of the video decoding to the GPU, and could be the perfect HTPC card for a lot of people.
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  • themadmilkman - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    Do these cards REALLY need active cooling? Judging by the size of the heatsink and fan, and the size of heatsinks on other cards that have been replaced with passive cooling, it doesn't seem like these cards would actually need to be actively cooled.

    I may be wrong, of course, since conjectures based off of one chart and a few pictures are often wrong. But if the 3650 performs well (I'm currently running a 7600GS, it should definitely be an upgrade) and a silent version is produced, I may have a new card.
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  • murphyslabrat - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    However, sometimes a few whiffs of aluminum and a 30mm fan can be a cheaper way to achieve a certain BTU rating than pure aluminum. However, you can be assured that there will be passively cooled models, but they'll just cost a wee bit more.

    All in all, this is essentially what I was expecting. Nothing really new, just shrunken a little and given a more efficient naming scheme. Let's hear it for AMD.
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  • themadmilkman - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    The extra price is certainly worth it to me. I guess more than anything I'm hoping that the passively-cooled version isn't too large. A 1-slot solution would be ideal.

    I guess we'll see on Monday.
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  • themadmilkman - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    It looks like the 3450 is a half-height card, or at least available as one? And available passively cooled stock. I can imagine that becoming very popular with the HTPC crowd. Reply
  • legoman666 - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    indeed. If a 8800GT can be passively cooled, then these cards can be passively cooled. Reply
  • Sunrise089 - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    I though you were gone from AI Derek - it seems like Anand has written all the recent GPU articles.

    Looking forward to the dual-3870 card review any hour now...
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  • Furen - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    If rumors are right, try next monday :P Reply
  • TechLuster - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    Yeah, the Inquirer is reporting a delay to next Monday.

    However, Tom's Hardware "mistakenly" posted their review a couple hours ago, but they've since taken it down. The only benchmarks I got a chance to look at were of Crysis, where the 3870 X2 was leading the 8800 Ultra on high settings w/ no AA. Here are the numbers they got:

    1680x1050:
    3780 X2: 33.3
    8800 Ultra: 32.6
    8800 GTS 512: 30.4
    3870: 23.3

    1920x1200:
    3870 X2: 29.6
    8800 Ultra: 27.1
    8800 GTS 512: 25.5
    3870: 19.2

    They also gave figures with AA (which typically doesn't and didn't in this case favor the R600 architecture), but these generally weren't playable, and Crysis is a game that looks OK without AA. Considering that Crysis tends to favor the 8800 over the 3800 by more than the average disparity between these cards, I think these numbers bode well for the 3870 X2.

    I kind of figured at the time that the review would probably be taken down, and I considered opening all the windows in tabs so that I'd have all the info before it disappeared. Now I'm kicking myself. Oh well, it's five more days.
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  • - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    There is a review here: http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd...">http://www.fpslabs.com/reviews/video/amd-radeon-hd... Reply
  • shabby - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    I thought crossfire didnt work on crysis yet, so the 3870x2 should only be as fast as one 3870.

    Btw how do these new cards differ from the 2400/2600, or are they just renamed ones?
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  • JarredWalton - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    Derek's not gone... he just doesn't respond well to pneumonia (among other things). Welcome back to the land of the living - try to stick around a while! Reply
  • crimson117 - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    Jarred, in the future it would be kind of you to keep Derek's antivirus signatures up to date. Reply
  • DerekWilson - Wednesday, January 23, 2008 - link

    lol ... i had a flu and a pneumonia shot (didn't even know you could get those) that should cover me for the next year (flu) and 10 years (pneumonia) ...

    10 years will be way too soon if I get pneumonia again tho. I like breathing.

    Also, thanks for welcoming me back. I think I'll go actually start my blog now too ...
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