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  • Zebo - Monday, July 31, 2006 - link

    I do not understand not finding the MAX FSB of these Conroe Boards by lowering multiplier to say 6-7. Many of us want to buy a Yugo(E6300) and make a Mercedes (3000Mhz +) and with these crappy sub 400Mhz bus speeds shown here: http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/abitab9proupdat...">http://images.anandtech.com/graphs/abitab9proupdat...

    We will be unable to do so. The very best board there can crank a E6300 up to 2800Mhz? Yes or No? No probably but we will never know based on your limited info.
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  • Tujan - Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - link

    What is the least wattage power supply that would be used with these boards. For examples sake,the Abit board just reviewed ?

    700 watts is fairly large wattage. I would like to use a 450 watt high efficiency unit. Or 500 watt at the most.

    Whats the 'least' wattage power supply that you might use.? Considering you wouldn't be doing any of the tweaks,that is running the board at factory stats. [1]?

    This board is going to cost how much ? [2] Is this board in the same range as the 975s from Intel ? Or within the same range as the 945 MBs wich run the Pentium,Pentium Ds (Prescotts)?

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  • Gary Key - Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - link

    quote:

    What is the least wattage power supply that would be used with these boards. For examples sake,the Abit board just reviewed ?


    What CPU? Conroe/Pentium D and a X1900XT would still justify 500w range if you expect to upgrade to the next generation video card and also overclock. Conroe and a 7800GT as an example would be fine with a high quality 400~450w power supply and still allow decent headroom for overclocking.

    quote:

    Whats the 'least' wattage power supply that you might use.? Considering you wouldn't be doing any of the tweaks,that is running the board at factory stats. [1]?


    A high quality 400w power supply would be fine, depending on the 12V rails a 350w might suffice with zero overclocking and a 7600 / X1600 level video card, all of this depends on the number of drives, cooling, and cards you add-on.

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    This board is going to cost how much ?


    At this point, $140, probably come down $125 as more boards are introduced in this price range.
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  • Tujan - Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - link

    Thanks for reply. Yes probably an Antech power supply. True Power,or Smart Power HE unit. Most of my regards in builds doesn't dismiss the overclocker market. Still it is good to know what the normal configuration will require.

    7600GT,or 1600XT, Maybe a single large Sata,or two high-end Sata 3s in Raid 0. USBs in use,keyboard etc. 2 gigs of Ram. Core Duo 6300 . Creative latest sound card. DVD /DVD writer.

    144$,.. not bad for sure.
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  • xsilver - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    does this uguru bios allow on the fly overclocking without reboot? (in windows)

    actually do all motherboards pretty much allow that these days?
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  • Gary Key - Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - link

    It normally does, testing a new version now that works with the latest bios and P965. Hopefully, I can report on it before the 965 roundup. Reply
  • DigitalFreak - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    7 slot motherboards? First it dropped to 6 slots, and now it's down to 5! With dual slot GPU coolers becoming commonplace, we need all the slots we can get. Reply
  • monsoon - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    I know you CONROE overclocking dedicated article is still on the way; I just wanted to mention I'm one among those who would rather see the E6600 results rather than the E6700 or other, if we have to choose one CPU only.

    ...Also, do you think an overclocking comparison between MEROM and CONROE ( and YONAH ) is coming in the future ?

    Thanks for another great article; I'll be drooling until one of those chips is in my hands...

    ;)
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  • JarredWalton - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    Right now, E6600 chips would top out at the same spot on most motherboards. The boards are holding back the E6700, not the CPU - except for the ASUS P5WDH, of course. So until the companies can get better OC'ing BIOS versions out, you're limited to 9x367 (roughly) with this Abit board.

    As far as comparing Merom and Conroe overclocking, that will be a bit difficult since Merom is going to fit in a different socket and won't be available for a few months more. The most we got out of Yonah on the AOpen motherboard was about 2.8 GHz, Conroe is clearly the better choice for overall performance since high end cooling is allowing people to reach 4.0 GHz and beyond. Merom could be interesting in that it will have higher multipliers so you won't need the high FSB speed support, but the inability to run Merom chips in socket 775 boards means you'll have to go for something like the AOpen board we reviewed, which is very expensive, though granted it's about the same price as most of the 975X Conroe motherboards.
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  • dugbug - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    Do you really think it will be two+ months before we see a merom laptop? What about sneek-preview laptops for review sites? Info on merom can't get here fast enough :) Reply
  • JarredWalton - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    Being able to look at Merom chips and laptops is one thing; being able to purchase them is another. We will do our best to bring you information as soon as possible, but I really don't expect Merom to be substantially faster/better than Conroe, and I really do expect socket 479 desktop motherboards to be more difficult to find. Reply
  • dugbug - Tuesday, July 25, 2006 - link

    Looking forward to your first merom laptop review. I expect it to be slower than conroe, Im more interested in how it compares to core duo/yonah.

    thanks
    -d
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  • bob661 - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    I figured I would see more comments on this. Odd. Reply
  • exitous - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    Is there is really any difference between the ab9 pro and the regular ab9 board other than some extra sata ports? The ab9 pro is out of stock now at newegg, so I was thinking of just getting the non pro board instead and saving a few bucks in the process. Reply
  • dasmokedog - Sunday, July 30, 2006 - link

    Raid support on the Pro Reply
  • Gary Key - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    I cannot comment on this since we do not have a board yet. The obvious differences are in the SATA ports, RAID capabilities, ALC-883 on the AB9, single Gb Ethernet, and couple of other minor differences in board design. How well the ABP overclocks or its stock performance is unknown at this time although I asked Abit to respond to your question. :) Reply
  • EvanAdams - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    What the hell is PCI-E x1 slots for? What a waste. Reply
  • jonmcguffin - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    Reminds me of those CNR or AMR (??) Slots we saw a few years ago. I agree, these PCI-E x1 slots are crazy.. Reply
  • DigitalFreak - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    No, their not. Blame the likes of Creative and others for not producing PCI-E cards, not Abit for including the slots. Time marches on, boys. Reply
  • DigitalFreak - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    their = there. Damn the lack of an edit button!
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  • JarredWalton - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    We would still prefer physical X16 slots with X1 connections, though. Since PCIe is backwards compatible, there's little reason to use X1 connectors. Reply
  • DigitalFreak - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    I give up. You know what I mean. Reply
  • JarredWalton - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    Some NICs and at least one TV Tuner (PowerColor Theater 550). Reply
  • yacoub - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    So in an era where most people use the on-board NIC and don't bother with a TV tuner, it'd be a waste then? :) Reply
  • Hikari - Monday, July 24, 2006 - link

    It depends.

    What if you what 10GbE or fiber as opposed to that 1GB copper that is built in?
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