quote:Would have been nice to see a Core Duo CPU in there too just for comparison for those of us with laptops who might considering spending $200 on a Merom if it would increase performance 10-20% over a Yonah with the same power consumption.
quote:We know (so as Xbitlab knows) that, because of IMC, A64 performs its best @ tightest memory timings. X-bit lab should have used This memory module if the test was going to be fair and square. Furthermore A64 3800 x2 @ 3ghz is 10x300, which means DDR2 667 1:1 could have been better to use. This DDR2 667 @ 3-3-3-10 would have given about 10% better performance than DDR2 4-4-4-12 that they used.
quote:I gambled by purchasing a A64 3700+ a few weeks ago when it dropped to under 150 ...
If I were to upgrade to the cheapest solo I would probably have to pay 500 dollars or more (new cpu, mb and memory) and I will probably get ~ performance in games. I stopped overclokcing a long time ago (except for maybe 10%) because I am tired of my new system becoming unstable after 4 months (plus I don't really need it anymore since nothing I do is really cpu limited).
98% of people actually buy the cheapest CPUs in a range (A64 2800-3200, x2 3800, C6300). That's where the real competition will be and frankly I'm not impressed at all, A64 is an ~3years old processor and intel's newest product can only beat it by 20%?
quote:Dude, 20% is a HUGE margin when you are talking competitive benchmarks.
quote:I would really like to see some X64bit benchmarks though to see how they will both fair with the future OSs.
quote:f I were to upgrade to the cheapest solo I would probably have to pay 500 dollars or more (new cpu, mb and memory) and I will probably get ~ performance in games. I stopped overclokcing a long time ago
quote:Um what? Core Solo isn't Netburst. It's a single-core version of Yonah as I recall. Basically, it's similar to a Dothan.
quote:When I go to college next year, I know what I'll be buying. :)
quote:You will be able to find answers at AnandTech to your basic Conroe motherboard and memory questions early next week.
quote:So they say 5 years ago until now Intel was “all” crap. I think Northwood was/is very good.
quote:This is a paper launch, and there's a variety of political reasons for it. Among the reasons:
quote:Your screenshots with cpuid have the stepping as a B1 stepping 5 Conroe - I bought a retail Conroe X6800, and it was a stepping 6 revB2
quote:How are we being hypocrites?
quote:I don't get where you're seeing its not available. According to a poster above,
quote:Because people were able to buy these four days ago?
quote:Because the official launch is still two weeks away?
quote:But they're not available today. Why is that?
quote:So Intel is launching this twice? What is going on today? Technology preview?
quote:RTFA. The NDA lifted today. Launch is on the 27th.
quote:If they were sold out they would still show on Newegg and ZZF
quote:bob and MrKaz, forever the fanboy.
quote:Sorry but the Netburst stuff is STILL garbage. Core 2 is head and shoulders better than anything they've made since the P3. Although, I thought the power consumption would be better.
quote:Then the only question that matters at all for those of us with AMD systems is: Can I get an FX-62 for $316 or less (and run it on my socket-939 board)? If so, I would pick one up. If not, I would go Intel.
quote:The 2.4GHz E6600, which outperformed the FX-62 in most benchmarks at stock speed costs $316, and overclocked to 4Ghz with excellent air cooling.
quote:awww. At least give us a taste, maybe 2 or 3 of the most CPU intensive tests run at 4ghz.
quote:According to page 3 "The Test", you used an Intel D975xBX motherboard (Intel 975X chipset) for the tests in the article. Yet in the picture of the Tuniq Tower on page 18 "Overclocking", there is clearly an Asus board with a gold/copper chipset heatsink, blue PCI-Express 16x slot, and alternating yellow and black DIMM slots. Which board is this? I suspect a P5WD2 or P5N32-SLI, just from looking at pictures online, but from what I can find neither of those has a gold/copper heatsink on the Northbridge.
quote:Great review, as always. I have to admit though that I was hoping for a bit more with regard to i965 based mainboards.
quote:The 2.4GHz E6600, which outperformed the FX-62 in most benchmarks at stock speed costs $223, and overclocked to 4Ghz with excellent air cooling
quote:Not just Netburst, even the Athlon 64s are obsolete now
quote:With the 1.83GHz conroe at $183 and on par with a X2 4600, I don't see the low end going for AMD either