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  • amuster - Monday, June 06, 2005 - link

    I have used the LG1980U for the past two months and agree with the AnandTech review. The darks are washed out. I was also surprised by the narrow viewing angle especially from above the screen. However the display is not unpleasant to use and the exterior design is just wonderful. I was very concerned about blurring having previously used a CRT and I wanted an LCD with good response. This screen is fine. If exterior design must be visually appealing to you and accurate colour rendition is not vital then I highly recommend the LG1980U. I was able to purchase the screen for £350 and at this price have no complaints. It is excellent value.
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  • Micronaut - Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - link

    We just got a 1905FP and it's HORRIBLE for gaming. The blur is very very bad. I cannot recommend it to anyone that has anything moving on the screen (and yes, I've loaded drivers, played with the vscyn, everything). :( Reply
  • Spacecomber - Tuesday, May 17, 2005 - link

    The 910N sounds similar to the 910T, though Samsung lists the 910N's specifications as 250cd and 800:1, while the 910T's specifications are listed as 260cd and 1000:1. Both have 170/170 viewing angles. Perhaps these are the same 25ms PVA panel, but tweaked differently by the monitor's circuitry and backlighting. The main difference is that the 910N looks to be a budget version, in that it is analog only, while the 910T has a DVI connection. Perhaps the lack of the DVI connection has something to do with the lower specifications?

    (Just to make things more confusing, there also is a 912T, which is specified at 250cd, 700:1, and 170/170. This actually sounds closer to the 910N.)

    Looking at Samsung's list of current panels isn't much help in sorting this out. They only list one 25ms PVA panel, the LTM190E1, which they specify as 250cd, 500:1, and 170/170. The only other PVA panel they list is the 8ms LTM190E4, which they specify as 250cd, 1000:1, and 178/178.

    In any case, without a DVI connection, I think the 915N is destined to be an inferior monitor to most of the other 19" LCDs that you've reviewed, including the Dell 1905FP.

    Space
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  • KristopherKubicki - Monday, May 16, 2005 - link

    Space: I have a review of the 910N coming up - which I believe is identical to the 910T.

    You are also correct on the "overdrive" circuitry - although it is all the same stuff. Each company just feels like calling it something different.

    JNo: Those ultra low repsonse times are unfortunately just hype. I can report a 4ms GTG response time, but that probably isnt the average and most likely a single scenario where the crystal is capable of twisting from one shade to another. Marketing seems to have gotten the best of that specification.

    nserra: The interpolation is quite noticeable.

    Kristopher
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  • WT - Monday, May 16, 2005 - link

    Someone offer up a comment on the Acer AL1914smd ... its available for $280 and seems like a great deal. DVI, 500:1 contrast and 12ms response seem like just what I want .. and its under $300. I can't determine whether its a 6 or 8 bit panel and whether that really, truly bothers me as a hard core gamer.

    LCDs ... about as confusing as wimmin during that 'monthly' thing .. *shrug*
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  • nserra - Monday, May 16, 2005 - link

    How bad do these lcds look if one game doesnt run good at 1280x1024? And i have to go for 1024x768 or even 800x600. Reply
  • ElFenix - Monday, May 16, 2005 - link

    yet another low resolution 19" LCD. is everyone blind that uses these things? Reply
  • Spacecomber - Sunday, May 15, 2005 - link

    These low grey to grey response time monitors, I believe, are all taking advantage of this so-called "overdrive" circuitry. I think that it also goes by the term "feedforward driving", and apparently it was developed by Mitsubishi.

    This seems like one of those technologies that it would be useful for the reviewers to take a look at and try and separate out the facts from the marketing hype.

    It may be that this is nothing that unusual and that it is being used in a wide range of LCDs. Perhaps some manufacturers have made a point about it just to dramatize their low response time numbers.

    Space
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  • JNo - Sunday, May 15, 2005 - link

    I know anandtech focuses a lot on the Dells and Samsungs in the LCD world (this review notwithstanding), which is in many ways fair enough given their marketshares, but there are other LCDs coming out which I'd like to see reviews of. I know response time isn't everything and is often a controversial subject but I'd love to see priority reviews on the reported 6ms Gray To Gray (GTG) BenQ FP91V+ and the reported 4ms GTG Viewsonic VX924. As #6 puts it, inquiring minds want to know.... Reply
  • MrEMan - Sunday, May 15, 2005 - link

    Does anyone know which OEM produces Dell's LCD monitors (I recall that some of their CRT monitors were manufactured by LiteON, but I have no idea who makes their LCDs)?

    I would be interested in how their retail monitors compare to the models they produce for Dell.
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  • nthexwn - Sunday, May 15, 2005 - link

    I still like my Samsung 710T for gaming ;) Any word on 8ms displays? Reply
  • phaxmohdem - Sunday, May 15, 2005 - link

    LOL Wish this article was published a day sooner. Not even 24 hours before this story went online, I walked out of my local Sams Club store toting two brand new Samsung 913V 19" LCD monitors. I paid around $350 ea for them.

    It was worth it though, these suckers have an 800:1 contrast ratio and are the durn purdiest monitors I have ever pwn3d. There is not much info online about this particular model, but I would recommend them to anyone in the 19" market. only down sides so far, is no DVI input and teh bases are not adjustable, just a tilt option. (and some ghosting on games which is to be expected from a 25ms monitor.)
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  • BUBKA - Saturday, May 14, 2005 - link

    wouldn't it be nice if somebody did a monitor review without a Matrix text complete with screenshot... Reply
  • g33k - Friday, May 13, 2005 - link

    Thanks for the review. I enjoyed the read and as I am in the market for a new monitor, this will definitly help in my buying descisions. Reply
  • Spacecomber - Friday, May 13, 2005 - link

    Sorry, one more comment. I believe the LG1930B uses a LG Philis S-IPS panel, though it is rated as only a 25ms panel. Still, this monitor might compare well against the Dell 1905FP, and NewEgg currently is selling it for $288 after a mail-in rebate. This might be another interesting 19" LCD monitor to take a look at.

    Ok, I think I'm done now.

    Space
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  • Spacecomber - Friday, May 13, 2005 - link

    Thanks for this review. Trying to keep up with how these 19" monitors stack up against each other is important to me, since they do seem to be the sweet spot for recommending a LCD to someone these days (as you noted).

    I think some of these have been mentioned before, but an interesting comparison would be this monitor to the Hyundi L90D+, which uses a Samsung TN panel, and the Viewsonic VP912B, which I think uses the AUO panel. At the moment, I would think that the Hyundi L90D+ gets the nod for a fast gaming monitor, because of its cost, about $350.

    I know you guys really like the Dell 1905FP, but its PVA panel is really too slow for games. In fact, I would like to see the 1905FP compared against the Samsung 910T. Although the 910T is rated as a 25ms panel and the Dell a 20ms panel, I didn't think there was much difference between them when it comes to games. The 5ms reported difference in response times is for black to white transitions, and this doesn't really reflect how the PVA monitor has so much trouble with black to grey transitions. The small 5 ms difference gets washed away by the high response times in these situations.

    And, I personally liked the much more extensive control features available on the 910T, compared to the Dell. Currently the 910T is available for $349 at NewEgg after a $50 mail in rebate, and they even have the 193P for $392, after a $200 rebate. So, the market for LCDs using Samsung's PVA panels is actually fairly tight.

    A couple of other monitors that I'd like to ask you to keep an eye out for, as they sound quite interesting, are the Samsung 193P plus and the Eizo L778. The 193P+ is suppose to be a 8ms PVA panel. I'm still skeptical if this will really make any difference in games, but inquiring minds want to know. The L778 is also a PVA panel, but Eizo claims that their "overdrive circuit" keeps the response times at a low level across the spectrum of black to grey transitions. If this is true, then this PVA panel might rival the S-IPS panels as coming close to being a good all-around LCD monitor.

    Some links:

    http://www.eizo.com/products/lcd/l778/index.asp

    http://product.samsung.com/cgi-bin/nabc/product/b2...

    Thanks again,

    Space
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  • ocyl - Friday, May 13, 2005 - link

    Good poundings on the 6-bit panels, Kristopher! Keep them going :D !!!
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  • Samadhi - Friday, May 13, 2005 - link

    1280x1024, it's about time someone produced a higher resolution 19" display. Reply
  • rqle - Friday, May 13, 2005 - link

    I like these flatron monitor, burrow friend LCD to carry around. I would only pay 15% more then a dell though, so price is a bit high for me. Reply
  • xpose - Friday, May 13, 2005 - link

    Nice review. I am glad my Dell is still the champ. hehee. Plus I paid 297.00 +tax shipping for the UltraSharp 1905FP just last week. With a price like that, this monitor doesnt stand a chance. Reply
  • ryanlun - Friday, May 13, 2005 - link

    In Soviet Russia, cable manages YOU!!!!! Reply

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