OCZ PC2-4200EB: Reaching for DDR2-800

by Wesley Fink on 12/21/2004 3:37 PM EST
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  • dev0lution - Thursday, December 23, 2004 - link

    1GB DC Kit for $400+ and 2GB DC Kit for $800+?? I think I'll just keep the hyper-x 4300 I got for $200 less and spend more on my other components. The performance increase isn't THAT mind-blowing but the prices sure are! Reply
  • Lord Evermore - Thursday, December 23, 2004 - link

    Another sign of declining standards: the "Xenon" .13 technology? Reply
  • GTMan - Thursday, December 23, 2004 - link

    The article makes the claim that other high end memory is achieved by "hand picking" and then says that this memory is a "new breed".

    Where is the info to back this up? What is different (in terms of technology) about this RAM? Or maybe this article is only about numbers :(
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  • Carfax - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - link

    The reason why the memory bandwidth scores are so low for DDR2-700 and 800 is obviously because the memory is bottlenecked by the FSB.

    The P4 would need to have a FSB of 1600 to take advantage of DDR2-800..
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  • Alphafox78 - Wednesday, December 22, 2004 - link

    Funny thing is that at the 700mhz speed the memory bandwith on my A64 with PC3200 is faster... Reply
  • Anemone - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    PS and I didn't even buy the matched 2gb set, just picked up 2 1gb individual sticks from Newegg.

    And at 4+ghz and sub 50c temps on air, I don't find any reason to worry about using an AMD solution...
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  • Anemone - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    I own 2 1gb sticks of this memory and while I"ve not had occasion yet to reach 811 fsb, every other timing they tested I have managed on a P5AD2-E (925XE) board. My PS is only the Antec Neopower 480 so it can also be done with a lesser PS as well.

    Expensive, yes, but given that no way would you ever see DDR1 in 1gb sticks doing this, makes it quite worth it if you need 2gb of memory in 2 sticks.

    $.02
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  • bupkus - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    Only one question...
    When will the time come that I can/should start considering DDR2 for my future AMD gaming PC?
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  • PrinceGaz - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    I just wish there were 1GB PC3200 or faster modules available for not much more than twice the price of the 512MB ones. Instead it seems 1GB DDR modules will always be overpriced and with slow timings. The Athlon 64 is crying out for fast 1GB PC3200 modules. Reply
  • MS - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    p.s. I know how to hand pick coffee beans but with memory, I would be out of my league... Reply
  • MS - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    Jason

    It is certainly true that if you have a system backbone that is not capable of taking advantage of the peripherals it will put a little damper on the enthusiasm. On the other hand, don't blame the components for that.

    One of the biggest issues is that the P4, no matter what you do cannot take advantage of latencies or bandwidth. The Prescott is a little better than the Northwood in that respect but it is still the bottleneck. Chances are that Intel finally will wake up and do something about this problem but maybe not. However, from the standpoint of a memory manufacturer, all we can do is try to provide THE very best solution and I firmly believe that we have done just that. Whether anybody wants it or not is a different story --- even though the latter could become our problem... :)
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  • Wesley Fink - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    #9 - We don't often mention exact price in a review because it is always changing and reviews are read and reread in the future. This is particularly true with memory. Right now, a 2x1GB kit is about $818. The 1GB kit with SS 512MB dimms is about $435.

    As we said in the review, this is expensive memory.
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  • formulav8 - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    This was most likely a HAND-Picked Dimm that OCZ sent to anandtech. Wait until there is real experiance with this memory to see if it is real or not.


    Jason
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  • skunkbuster - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    how much does this cost? i dont think i saw it mentioned in the review

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  • bcoupland - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    What I find ironic with all this huge bandwidth on the 1066 fsb p4's, is that a S754 3700+ with 3.2 GB/s can still beat it in most tests, some more than others. Nice Ram, though. Reply
  • bigtoe36 - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    Guys

    I haven't seen any other DDR2 clock as good as these dimms. Running 3-2-2- at DDR700+ is pretty impressive. Maybe we need to blame the boards or the cpu's for the lack of speed. Im sure if AMD moves to DDR2 running dimms at DDR700 3-2-2 would be pretty damned fast.
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  • CBone - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    How did the other sticks do in the 1066 FSB bench? I'm going to guess that if there was a difference, it was so slight as to be negligible.
    It seems that everyone is waiting for the great white hope in DDR2, but manufacturers are delivering the great white hype. So far it looks like ALL DDR2 performs and overclocks about the same so you should buy as cheap as you can and not bother getting the overpriced Corsair or OCZ.
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  • formulav8 - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    Was it mainly just for the oc or the lower timings? I guess if for ocing it is nice. But for timings it is worthless?? That is what I was trying to understand with my above post.


    Jason
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  • formulav8 - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    Unless I was looking at the wrong numbers, this memory is worthless. There was NOT EVEN 1% increase in performance? It increased the points in some benches but by a wopping 0.5%-0.9% on average???

    I am not sure why this review is so excited about this memory??

    You get a much higher performance increase with DDR1 at low timings compared to high timings. Up to 4-5% increase in almost every bench.

    Did I compare the wrong numbers or something??


    Jason
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  • Icehawk - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    I'm very impressed that they got dual channel 1gb sticks working so well in DDR2 - wish they could do the same for DDR :( A64 + 2gb DC would be nice... Reply
  • blckgrffn - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    Well, how does this compare with a nearly equally expensive fx-55 if you buy the best TCCD DDR RAM and play with the mulitplier for a massive overclock? I guess this really might help those who want a massive overclock on the less expensive P4's. Reply
  • Rapsven - Tuesday, December 21, 2004 - link

    That's pretty impressive.

    What's the betting that Mushkin, Corsair, Kingston, and Crucial will come out with equally performing RAM within a week?
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