AMD CPU Roadmap: Q3'04 Lots More Semprons

by Jarred Walton on 10/8/2004 12:00 AM EST
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  • JarredWalton - Thursday, October 28, 2004 - link

    14 - I don't think AMD *could* crank out a new FX every three months. The FX-55 is probably good up to 2.8 and maybe 3.0, but why should they increase their lead over Intel at the cost of profits? This is what people have been predicting for years: if AMD could ever beat Intel in performance, they would no longer sell their processors for significantly less money than Intel. Right now, you should all be rooting for Intel to start getting more competitive again. Look at the Intel roadmaps, though, and you'll see that both AMD and Intel are going to be pretty quiet for six months or so. :( Reply
  • HardwareD00d - Monday, October 25, 2004 - link

    No FX-57 until Q3 '05? That sucks. AMD should really put the pressure on NOW and not get complacent. I say crank out a new FX model every 3 months. It's their game now. Reply
  • JarredWalton - Saturday, October 23, 2004 - link

    Okay, I updated the tables and text. Yes, the 3000+ for socket A is a Barton core, and it includes 512K of cache. It also runs at the same speed as the Sempron 2800+. Unfortunately, the roadmaps that we get for AMD sometimes aren't as clear about specs. We also had to avoid mentioning that 4000+ = FX-53 with multiplier clock, due to NDA. Reply
  • AkumaX - Saturday, October 23, 2004 - link

    kris, the socket A sempron 3000+ does have 512kb cache, and it's clocked at 2.0ghz, made a thread about it in cpu forum, no one really cared :(

    reason why i brought it up is because you would tend to think that ALL semprons (skt A and skt754) would have 256kb cache, so it would go along with the simple assumption. but in having the 3000+ use a barton core, you'd have to make an exception saying that the 3000+ has 512kb cache :|
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  • coldpower27 - Sunday, October 10, 2004 - link

    To me adding 200 points for Dual Channel or an extra 512KB of cache is a bit too much IMO. 100 pts for each would have been better.

    Ironically due to K8 excellent clock speed scaling GHZ seems to be the best thing to increase for increasing performance.

    A Athlon 64 2.4GHZ should be around Pentium 4 3.6GHZ level, for Athlon 64's i have generally seen it's about 2 to 3 ratio.
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  • MemberSince97 - Saturday, October 09, 2004 - link

    It's just a $cache game... Reply
  • PrinceGaz - Saturday, October 09, 2004 - link

    I think 4000+ is a perfectly reasonable rating for the FX-53 when real-world performance is compared to the 3800+ and 3700+. The ratings are currently slightly conservative when compared to current Prescott CPUs (800FSB, 1MB L2) so they will probably be roughly equivalent to the 2MB L2 Prescotts when they eventually arrive sometime in Q1 '05.

    The last roadmap posted here on AT only showed the 570J (3.8GHz, 800FSB, 1MB) this quarter, with Q1 '05 bringing the faster 580J (4GHz, 800FSB, 1MB) and 670 (3.8GHz, 800FSB, 2MB). No mention of a 680 (4GHz, 800FSB, 2MB) though, so that may be later in 2005, assuming they are able to keep to that schedule and hit those speeds.

    The 4000+ (aka FX-53) will almost certainly be faster than either of those chips and by the time it has real competition, the improved core with SSE3, improved prefetch etc, in what is listed as the >=4000+ part should be ready.

    I must admit not much seems set to happen from either AMD or Intel until late next year when the dual-core CPUs arrive. We're only really looking at a 10-15% performance increase at best before then.
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  • Da DvD - Saturday, October 09, 2004 - link

    I must say that sucks..Inflated PR ratings suck.. just the fact that this part doesn't have any competition doesn't mean it won't have any in the future. From 4 Ghz 2mb L2 Prescott parts, that is. Reply
  • JarredWalton - Friday, October 08, 2004 - link

    Disregard comment #2. Kris set me straight. ;) Reply
  • KristopherKubicki - Friday, October 08, 2004 - link

    Its a 2.4ghz part - sorry for the typo.

    Kristopher
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  • Macro2 - Friday, October 08, 2004 - link

    Humm I don't believe it. Reply
  • Da DvD - Friday, October 08, 2004 - link

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  • Da DvD - Friday, October 08, 2004 - link

    #2, you might not have heard it, but according to several other roadmaps it was a 2.4 GHz 1 MB part. (basically a renamed FX-53)

    Those roadmaps where a tad older though.
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  • JarredWalton - Friday, October 08, 2004 - link

    What else would it run at? It's a 512K S939 part. Since the 3800+ is a 2.4 GHz part, 2.6 GHz is likely. You can find out for sure when the part launches later this month. Reply
  • Da DvD - Friday, October 08, 2004 - link

    Are you really, really sure the 4000+ runs at 2.6 GHz? Cuz that would be great, we don't want another PR rating disaster now would we? Reply

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