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  • fengpc - Sunday, August 22, 2004 - link

    Visited Suzhou two times, it's a nicer area than ShenZhen IMO. The industry zones look cleaner and more organized. However I believe they will have power issues just like other mfg zones in China soon. Nice article, enjoy reading it. Reply
  • KristopherKubicki - Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - link

  • Glenngalata - Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - link

    An excellent overview of what is involved in the motherboard manufacturing world.

    The key point to this article is the availability of cheap labor. There would never be a way to produce an American made motherboard product that would be cost effective against the the far east produced items which is unfortunate.

    Another key point to the article is the comment of the ABIT quality control being obviously tighter than that of ECS. Anyone who has owned an ECS product can attest to the fact that the lemon rate for their products distinctly shows the quality difference going against ECS. They may be a larger company but they did not get there by catering to buyers who care about any level of satisfaction. Maybe this is why ECS was voted one of the worst quality control entities in the entire motherboard segment.

    The choice is yours but ABIT scored my vote on this one.
  • MadAd - Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - link

    yeah please, whats the url? Reply
  • KristopherKubicki - Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - link

    14: I have it - its 23MB though. send me an email, i will drop it somewhere you can pick it up.

  • manzana - Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - link

    Interesting article. Wish there was a video of that person building the pc within 1 minute ;) Reply
  • araczynski - Monday, June 14, 2004 - link

    very nice article, makes me miss my days in the industrial automation field, but not the pressures :) Reply
  • KristopherKubicki - Monday, June 14, 2004 - link


    Like i said in the ECS article also, workers work about 8 to 9 hours a day and are provided with meals/housing. There is very little variation between any company that operates out of China; its kind of all about standardized. If you have any other specific political or economic questions feel free to ask.

  • Jaramin - Monday, June 14, 2004 - link

    It would be nice if some more information about the ethical or human ressource aspect of the manufacture would be included. The only thing that was provided here is that the workers are paid 100$/month...

    Some of us like to know what is the actual human cost of a product. Knowing that company A offers better working conditions than B could certainly weight on my choice of boards.
  • ViRGE - Monday, June 14, 2004 - link

    While I don't really have anything of substance to say, I would like to say that this is one of those "wow, that's cool" kind of articles that are always great to see. Kudos for doing these kinds of things, guys. Reply
  • KristopherKubicki - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link

    Got it, thanks.

  • kalaap - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link

    "This is actually the second over on the production line; the first is used right after SMT."

    I think you meant second OVEN.
  • AtaStrumf - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link

    Right Click --> Save Target As... ---> save to disk and play from there. If its still not working you need a new player. Real One Player is preety good. Reply
  • roostercrows - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link

    can someone tell me which video players you guys use? i couldn't get my realplayer to download the videos. thanks Reply
  • DonB - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link

    "...why there are more women than men". Women have much better manual dexterity than men. Remember typing classes in high school? I remember in my class, after the first semester, the females were typing around 40-50 wpm while the males were typing around 25-35 wpm, almost without exception. Reply
  • CurtOien - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link

    "The machine technician and the traditional visual inspectors are paid about the same; usually around $100 per month with lodging."
    I wonder how much the executives make?
  • AtaStrumf - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link

    The problem that I see with their testing procedure is that they probably only test at default settings, which is just not good enough for an enthusiast targeted motherboard. Sure my KT7 A worked fine at 100 MHz FSB, but it didn't at 133 MHz FSB, and my latest AN7 works fine at default BIOS setting, but when you change something strange things start to happen.

    I understand that they're in a hurry, but they should at least test at the most stressful settings that the mobo is supposed to function properly i.e. 200 MHz FSB and not 133 or. 166 MHz. What good is a 24 h burn-in test if it's done at 133 MHz FSB, and I'm gonna be using a 200 MHz FSB.

    For instance this AN7 that I have now, works perfectly if I OC my 2500+ with the default offered 3200+, but if I change the FSB manualy to 200 its totaly unstable. How strange is that?
  • KristopherKubicki - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link

    artifex: I have not heard that reason for using women over men in facilities.

    What other economic information were you interested in? I can add it to the article.

  • artifex - Sunday, June 13, 2004 - link

    I couldn't get the n7_fail image to load (ironic), but other than that, everything was good.

    Is it still true that another reason why there are more women than men on the assembly line is because womens' hands are generally thought to be smaller, and more adept?

    I'd like to see more of the background economic information like what you provided for this story, next time you do a plant tour, too.

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