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  • KnightBreed - Monday, February 16, 2004 - link

    "any word on All-in-Wonder variants yet? It'd be quite lovely if they finally made a version with their new HDTV chipset."

    An AIW with an integrated HDTV tuner? *drools*
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  • sarreq - Sunday, February 15, 2004 - link

    any word on All-in-Wonder variants yet? It'd be quite lovely if they finally made a version with their new HDTV chipset. Reply
  • KristopherKubicki - Sunday, February 15, 2004 - link

    Regs is correct. NVIDIA has more software engineers than hardware engineers.

    Kristopher
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  • Regs - Saturday, February 14, 2004 - link

    That's a fair point Trogdor, but video cards are more than the hardware they lay on. Don't forget about the programming of the core of how the GPU processes game instructions are also very important to consider. T&L I believe, hopefully some one will correct me if im wrong. Reply
  • TrogdorJW - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link

    Call me crazy, but it seems to me that the changes ATI is making with R4xx are much less drastic than what Nvidia is doing with NV4x. Nvidia is claiming 3X perfomance increase over NV3x, and up to 8X performance increase in Pixel Shader operations. Yeah, it's all theoretical at this point, but it's something to think about. Of course, if you compare R3xx to NV3x, it appears that ATI just had a better design than Nvidia, for the most part, so they didn't need to change as much.

    Regardless of which chip you favor, it's shaping up to be an interesting battle come springtime! (Or more likely summer for those of use that don't get the very first cards direct from the manufacturers.) Can't wait! When these cards get released, I'll finally be able to afford a Radeon 9800XT. :)
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  • Regs - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link

    Thanks for the info Anand, Kris, and Wes ;) Reply
  • milohenke - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link

    The reason is:
    The core on 9600XT is 500Mhz, not 400Mhz (as Anandtech:s roadmap says).
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  • Pete - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link

    Straight from the horse's Powerpoint presentation, eh? :) Reply
  • KristopherKubicki - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link

    We just write what it says in the roadmap. We notice inconsistancies too :)

    Kristopher
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  • Pete - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link

    Question: how will R420 offer "twice the pixel fill rate" of an R350 with the same number of pipelines and a 30% core clock increase over the 9800P? Twice the pixel shader rate, I can understand, but twice the fillrate doesn't seem to add up. Reply
  • KristopherKubicki - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link

    #4: RV380 is just an overclocked RV360.

    Kristopher
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  • Icewind - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link

    Wow, its gonna be an expensive summer. Owell, lifes short.

    Amd Athlon 64 939 pin $450
    A64 DDR2 Mobo $180
    DDR2 1 Gig $400
    ATI R420 $500
    = $1530

    Bah, no problem :D



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  • StormGod - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link

    "RV380 seems to keep the same core clock as the Radeon 9600XT..."

    A 25% bump from 400 to 500 isn't the same as a 0% speed increase. Either the text or the chart is wrong.
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  • CrystalBay - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link

    #2 My guess is around a $1000 give or take a couple hundred... Reply
  • britneyLA - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link

    ok, spring will be crazy for upgarding (though word "upgrading" seems not to be actually apropriate): new Intel sillicon, new graphics, new mobo (with new chipset and sockets) and maybe even some new DDR sticks... i am wondering, how much would this kinda a new system, lets say in medium range, cost?! any ideas? Reply
  • sipc660 - Friday, February 13, 2004 - link

    the rv -370 will be built on a 0.11 u process

    but in the table you wrote 0.13 u process.


    :)


    sorry!!!

    P.S: try and get hold of that win2k and winnt source code while you still can....
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