ATI's Mobility Radeon 9700 - What's in a name?

by Andrew Ku on 2/3/2004 12:50 AM EST


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  • Platter - Saturday, February 14, 2004 - link

    Suppose, just for the sake of argument, that the recent official announcement from IBM regarding the 970FX has something to do with ATI's 'Big One™'?

    PowerBook G5, anyone?
  • Andrew Ku - Monday, February 09, 2004 - link

    Ok, so to answer some of the inquires posed to me - if you currently own a Mobility Radeon 9600 (one of the three) based notebook, you are more or less set to go. The Mobility Radeon 9700 in the majority of cases behaves like an OC'ed version of its predecessor. However, the M10 is still a very hardy chip seems like it is going to have a long life cycle.

    As for waiting time, it looks like the bulk of the design wins won't start to be announced until the end of Feb. So go with a M10 based notebook if you plan to buy within the next few months or if you are just looking for the "traditional notebook." It's going to take some time before mainstream sees M11 in their mobile systems. And when it does, M11 will be in DTR notebooks for the most part.
  • Serp86 - Thursday, February 05, 2004 - link

    i think that the performance difference is quite enoght to justify calling it a 9700. Reply
  • yomer - Thursday, February 05, 2004 - link

    So Andrew, Dell is supposed to be one of the bunch in adopting the M9700. Might Dell be called BIG? I wanted to buy an IBM t41p with a mobility firegl T2(based on the 9600) with 128MB. Should I wait and buy a notebook with the new M9700? Is it worth it? How much should we wait in oder to be able to buy one of thoes notebooks here in the US? Reply
  • TrogdorJW - Wednesday, February 04, 2004 - link

    #9, it's all marketing. There will be enough people out there that don't know hardware who will just assume the 9700M is the same as the desktop 9700. Too bad for them. The important thing is that the M11 *is* quite a bit faster than the R9600 Mobility Pro, right? Or maybe they should have called the part the Mobility Radeon 9800 SE? ;) Reply
  • CaptainSpectacular - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - link

    ok ATI, what's with the naming scheme. this is absolutely awful! This part has nothing to do with the desktop 9700. I understand the dilema as presented, but what's wrong with 9650? or some other similar variation? the name 9700 is flat out misleading, regardless of how you justify it. This is almost as bad as nvidia calling the NV17 a GeForce4 series card (ok, not nearly that bad, but same idea...) Reply
  • Slappi - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - link

    Well if it is BIG I would think the biggest notebook maker is Toshiba and they are all Nvidia now so....... that would be huge.

    Do I get a cookie?
  • Andrew Ku - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - link

    #6 - Sorry, no hints. You can count all the big guys on a single hand, and so there isn't much point in the old'e guess and check. Reply
  • yomer - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - link

    Andrew please! Tell me that the big name is not IBM!! Reply
  • Andrew Ku - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - link

    #2 - From our talks with the OEMs and ODMs, we understand that the pricing between the two chips is basically pocket change for prospective notebooks owners. Reply
  • alexruiz - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - link

    Andrew, did you run 3Dmark 2001SE? Do you have the score as reference?

    My guess: Checking the list, you can see that almost ALL the ODMs are included. The manufacturers who make machines for the biggest OEMs are included. 2 missing ones that I noticed are Mitac and Arima, and my guess of the unannounced ODM is ARIMA.... thus, the big OEM announcement will be..... you got the picture :)

    W740K8-D? :P
  • Serp86 - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - link

    Or maybe begins with s, ends with y, and has 4 letters.

    Anyway, the 9700 looks pretty darn good
  • Durt - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - link

    What is the price difference between the two (9600 pro and 9700). Reply
  • PrinceGaz - Tuesday, February 03, 2004 - link

    I wonder who the other BIG unannounced notebook manufacturer using it is... from a wild guess I'd bet the name begins with 'D' and has four letters :p Reply

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