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  • GoofyFoot - Friday, January 06, 2006 - link

    Thanks for your review of the Dell UltraSharp 2001F. I've notitced that the monitor is a couple of years old. I'm wondering if you've seen anything newer (e.g. Samsung 204T or ???) at 1600 x 1200 and approximately 20" that you would favor for text? I spend much of my time working with black-on-white text, no shading or color. Unfortunately, I have never been able to demo the Dell 2001F. Reply
  • KristopherKubicki - Saturday, December 04, 2004 - link

    Carolie: I am not entirely familiar with the BFG card, although i suspect it is not dual headed - meaning you cannot have both inputs hooked up at the same time. I have the D-sub and DVI connector on my 2001FP hooked up constantly and i am switching back and forth all day with no problems - although the two cables hook up to different machines.

    I suggest just keep the DVI cable and ditch the Analog one.

    Kristopher
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  • Carolie - Monday, November 15, 2004 - link

    I bought one of these in May 2004 and have had no problems.

    I need to know if something is possible though. I have a BFGTech GeForce5700LE video card with an analog VGA out and a DVI-I video out. This monitor has an analog VGA in and a DVI-D video in.

    I would like to be able to switch back and forth easily between the analog and digital inputs from the same computer for purposes of either work or game.

    But when I hook up both the analog and digital connections to the monitor, it defaults to the analog and I cannot get a digital signal.

    The only way I can get a digital signal is to not have the analog connected. If I have both connected, I get no signal when I switch from input 1 (analog) to input 2 (digital). The manual says you cannot have both connected at the same time.

    Is what I want to do possible and I'm just doing something wrong or is it simply not possible with the design of this monitor?

    I can't get through to Dell technical support because the monitor does not have a "service tag" and I can't contact Dell technical support via e-mail, online, or phone without a service tag.

    Any advice?
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  • clamps - Wednesday, October 13, 2004 - link

    I have two of these running from a Quadro 4 980 XGL, and I gotta say these are the best monirots i've yet used.
    Please be aware that the colour reproduction is not perfect, but it's sure as hell good enough for me.
    I do 3d work here in Japan. Running a dual 20" LCD rig has long been my dream. I gotta say it was worth the wait.

    Oh, I had 1 red pixel out of the box, away in a corner. I NEVER see it, and the guy said that if it hits 6 damaged pixels in the next 3 years they'll fix it for free.

    Has anyone got anything they wanna know before buying some of these?
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  • rhoelzl - Friday, August 06, 2004 - link

    i have bought this screen, but i am returning it to dell. it is not acceptable for games in my eyes.

    i did not notice any problems with ghosting or similar, but the black is so bright, that in any game containing dark areas the atmosphere is being ruined (especially bad: "thief - deadly shadows").

    very sad, because besides that problem, the screen was perfect. perhaps i should stick to CRTs...
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  • loopy - Wednesday, May 26, 2004 - link

    Hmm. I have been using my 2001FP for a month.
    I have found atleast 5 dead subpixels (green colored)located upperleft quadrant and lowerright quadrant . Anyone know if Dell will replace it ? I haven't been in touch with them yet.
    Quote from review: "However, considering the density and volume of pixels (1600x1200), we expected a higher pixel failure rate. Dell has informed us that had this been an actual production unit, and not a pre-production sample, the defect rate would have been much lower."

    Ingemar
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  • KristopherKubicki - Saturday, May 15, 2004 - link

    $650 is an awesome price!

    Kristopher
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  • TurtleMan - Wednesday, May 05, 2004 - link

    Hmm i got mine too, haven't test on game yet, but no deadpixel, i like ;D

    hey can't aruge about it when i got this LCD for $650 ;]
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  • airjrdn - Friday, April 16, 2004 - link

    Mine just showed up. I've played a handful of games of UT2004 with it using both the DVI connector and the standard VGA connector. I'm running the following hardware:

    Intel 2.8Ghz
    128M ATI Radeon 9700 Pro
    1G Corsair XMS

    I'll admit, there's no ghosting in UT, but there's a TON of blurryness. I've installed the driver on the CD and nothing changed. If I don't figure out the deal this weekend, Dell will get it back.

    I've not seen anything different on this flat panel than I've seen on any other with regards to being game friendly. To me, there's little difference between being blurry, and exhibiting ghosting. Neither is acceptable in a monitor in this price range.

    If anything changes, I'll post here again, but for now, I'd recommend not getting it.
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  • KristopherKubicki - Monday, April 12, 2004 - link

    I play UT2K4 on it almost everyday and i have not noticed any.

    Kristopher
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  • airjrdn - Friday, April 09, 2004 - link

    I'm getting conflicting feelings about this monitor as well. I guess I'm summing it up to some people being pickier than others.

    Is there ANY ghosting at all in UT2K3/4?
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  • labelreader - Saturday, April 03, 2004 - link

    Yep. I have one of these monitors at work and that's exactly what I did; the "insulator" actually helps with the movement problems when it's on top of the cable hook because it gives you some slack in the cable between the hook and the display. By the way, there are no flaws on mine or my coworkers' displays...I want one for home! Reply
  • HermosaBeach - Saturday, February 07, 2004 - link

    Hi, I own an ATI 9800 Pro and a Samsung 210T (Digital 1600x1200 via DVI).

    The ATI 9800 Pro defintely supports 1600x1200 via DVI (digital). Not only does it support it, but I only play games at 1600x1200, I never reduce the resolution, unless the game does not allow this resolution. Furthermore, it most games, I turn 6xAA and 16xAF on as well. The odd game is too slow (frames per second are too slow) and I reduce the AA and AF, but I never reduce the resolution.

    You want to use the LCD in its native resolution when-ever possible.

    Dave
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  • StripPokeHer - Saturday, December 27, 2003 - link

    Owners of 2001FP:

    Do any of you guys have the same problem with the "grainyness" of this screen.

    Here are different posts from others that I have found:

    http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/mess...

    http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/mess...

    http://forums.us.dell.com/supportforums/board/mess...

    I have the same problem. My eyes are used to LCD screens because I use my laptop for half of the day at least (1400x1040 14") I have also used both the 1800FP and 1900FP without issue. But this thing is bugging the sh*t out of me, and i will probably send it back. Waited a long time to get this (primarily based on this review), and the quality of this monitor turns out to be like crap.

    Anyone seen/know what the cause of this is? FYI: I'm running a 9800XT 256MB on DVI @ 1600x1200. Running latest cats + the monitor driver provided by dell. I had the same problem on both DVI and Analog, but truth be told, they were both ATI controllers (9800XT & a Radeon 9000)

    Any input to those who are owners are appreciated! :) TIA
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  • MorbentFell - Wednesday, December 24, 2003 - link

    Hmm... will check that out. Thnx for the reply. Reply
  • Singletary - Tuesday, December 23, 2003 - link

    Folks on the Dell Community forum are saying that the screen is LG Phillips, but the monitor is assembled/manufactured by BenQ. Reply
  • MorbentFell - Saturday, December 20, 2003 - link

    I just received this monitor a couple days ago. I've been having some strange problems with green & red horizontal diagnol pixel lines that resolve when I turn the power off and on again. As I was looking on the back, one thing I noticed is that it says 'BenQ Corporation'. I may be showing my ignorance here, but I was under the impression these are LG Phillips screens. Are they the same thing? If not, are the specs/quality equivalent? Any input would be appreciated. Reply
  • Singletary - Thursday, December 18, 2003 - link

    I like the monitor very much, but don't think I have it adjusted correctly. I know room lighting is different, but where are you folks setting the contrast and brightness? Anyone found a profile to ensure color correctness? Please share Kristopher!
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  • Spirex - Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - link

    FYI...go to Dell Business to order, they are currently selling it for $749.00 plus tax. Mine came out to a total of $794.00 to ship to NJ. I am not sure how long this promotion will last. Reply
  • Spirex - Wednesday, December 17, 2003 - link

    I just got mine yesterday. Hooked it up via the DVI port to my ATI 9700 pro AIW. This thing is kicks my previous monitor to the curb(Viewsonic p813 21"). At first, I was having difficulty reading text because I wasn't used to the sharpness @ 1600x1200. I had also played in a UT2k3 ladder match that night. To sum it up....AMAZING. No ghosting at 1024x768-60hz full screen. The image quality was as good or better than my CRT. I didn't lose any skill points with this monitor. Maybe I try some real work on it today. Reply
  • jjll - Monday, December 15, 2003 - link

    to those of you who have the 2001fp, are you happy with the lcd? Reply
  • Singletary - Monday, December 15, 2003 - link

    You said: ". . . we ran ColorVision's Spyder and OptiCal software. Not only does this calibrate accurately the monitor on the DVI and analog interface . . . ."

    Because I can't afford this software, but have this monitor, would your friends allow you to share the calibration file for this monitor?

    Thanks!
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  • abster - Thursday, December 11, 2003 - link

    I just got one. Did you try connecting it to a HDTV cable box? I am interesting in using it as a HDTV and PC monitor at the same time! Reply
  • randolo - Wednesday, December 10, 2003 - link

    I just bought and set up two of the 2001FP's. Interestingly, one of them displays at 1600x1200 via analog just fine (no streakiness or blur), while the other is really streaky at 1600x1200, and less streaky (but still annoyingly unfocused) at 1280x1024. Gonna do some reorientation and box-swapping to try and isolate the source of the discrepancy between the two... Reply
  • MONSTERUS - Sunday, December 07, 2003 - link

    Hi there! No offence,but there were several parts of review that I didn't like.
    Most important part:"By popular request".
    *The Matrix Reloaded and The Matrix — As with our previous benchmarks, these are not spectacular movies to test colors subjectively*-
    Than how come you tested them and not something more colorfull? Matrix movies are all in dark tones, so they will probably look good on almost any LCD monitor.
    *both movies were quite acceptable on the 2001FP*-when they say something like that I begin to suspect that movies on this monitor are just "quite acceptible",hope you know what I mean,lets say 3 out of 5 - that's what is "acceptible"means for me :-)
    Other concern is that while testing games seems like you only used on game rich in color depth -
    Halo,and that was gosting.
    Saying "For probably 2/3 of the games we play, pixel blur is not noticeable" makes me wander what kind of games you played more.
    Didn't really understand about bluring in Halo,as you said camera captured some blur,but how about your feeling? Did it disturb the gameplay?How often blurin accured?All the time,or just in some scenes?
    Lots of people still wander how UT2003 goes on this monitor,because lots of developers are going to use this 3D engine for their future games.
    Another concern-there was no clear saying how good watching of DVDs is on this monitor from different angles. Was there big lack on colors and tones from viewing from angle?

    Hope to see some answears soon,thank you!
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  • golemite - Saturday, November 29, 2003 - link

    "Halo — We had some mixed feelings while playing Halo. Granted, we spend a lot of time playing Halo on DLP screens via component input (PS2 of course)."

    dude, its called an XBOX ;P
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  • maxter - Tuesday, November 25, 2003 - link

    It's not fair to compare a 1280x1024 monitor to a 1600x1200 one. That aside, my old Radeon 8500 drives the samsung 213T at native DVI output flawlessly. I'd never go back to my CRT. The geometry is perfect, the color is stable and matches my print output perfectly, the gray scale levels are stable and accurate, the resolution is razor sharp edge to edge, and its easy on the eyes. It helps me spot flaws in my images that I never noticed on my CRT. Only drawback is that you can't view it from the sides, you have to have your eyes centered to the screen. Reply
  • henmaster - Friday, November 21, 2003 - link

    Actually an 1600x1200 native LCD can also run 800x600 without interpolation, since it is a whole number multiple. So you dont need that great of a computer to run games full screen, without interpolation, on a 1600x1200 native LCD, as you can always bump the resolution down to 800x600. Reply
  • tygrus - Thursday, November 20, 2003 - link

    The bulge near the end of the video cable is not an insulator and not a magnet. It is a Ferrite core (two halves) - it forms an inductor circuit with the cable running through it to filter spikes and filter some interference.

    Analog RGB signals are designed for CRT monitors. Remember that CRT's use electron guns emitting beams of electrons and electro-magnets to scan across a horizontal line hitting phosphorous dots. The signal then goes low (low electron gun emissions) while moving to the start of the next line (typically on the left). This means that any interference or poor signal quality (eg. slow slew rate) affects horizontal pixels. A slow slew rate will cause a smearing of the image horizontally. Poor signal termination (eg. Mismatch of impedance, earthing) can cause ghosting. Poor colour accuracy and interference can also be caused by cross-talk when signal wires are not properly shielded.

    I've just done this quickly so let me know if you want more information.

    ~~~~~

    PS. I'm not saying that this article is bad, the following is a comment/warning about articles/reviews in general in print/internet. I get frustrated with reviews that leave information out, make assumptions based on incomplete information or don't investigate/research.
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  • lindloff - Tuesday, November 18, 2003 - link

    The article does a good job of convering the new LCD. It does a bad job explaining the CONS of a LCD with a native resolution of 1600x1200.

    As with any LCD if you dont run your application at its "Native Resolution" it looks bad....just plain bad. Most people buying them dont understand this..and then think LCD's dont look good.

    To run a new game like Halo on this LCD at its native resolution of 1600x1200, you would need a monster computer....like a P4 3.4EE to get any kind of playable FPS.

    Sure it has that zoom out feature to avoid the problems of not using the native resolution...but then why have a 20inch LCD? It would be nice if they made a 20 inch LCD with great response times that came in different native resolutions.

    I bought my 19inch because I did not have a system that could run a new game at 1600x1200 at good speed. 1280x1024 was my target, even then some games with my P4 2.4C and 9700Pro need to have AA turned off to get good FPS.
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  • GomezAddams - Monday, November 17, 2003 - link

    I thought it was a good review also.

    I would like to hear how this one compares with Planar's PL201M as both have similar capabilities and price.
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  • scrubman - Friday, November 14, 2003 - link

    it was a good review BUT i would have liked to hear something about how it compares to its predicessor, the 2000FP... that is what i use with a 9800Pro and i think it is outstanding... Reply
  • TwYsTeD - Friday, November 14, 2003 - link

    I am also curious as to how a fast paced game like UT2003 plays on it. Reply
  • ShoNuff - Thursday, November 13, 2003 - link

    It appears that both the NEC 2080UX+ and the Dell 2001FP will be released in December :(

    Hopefully the NEC will be priced competitively with the Dell as to offer end users a choice in monitors.

    I would be really surprised if Samsung and Sony are not going to release a comparable LCD using the Philips panel in December as well.

    Any of you monitor gurus have any information on additional offering using the Philips panel please share it.
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  • GTMan32 - Thursday, November 13, 2003 - link

    The bulge near the end of the video cable is not an insulator. It is a magnet designed to reduce interference.

    http://computer.howstuffworks.com/question352.htm
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  • Lorrin - Thursday, November 13, 2003 - link

    Does anyone know how the Apple Cinema Displays compare? I know their response time isn't as fast, but I'm not a gamer so that doesn't bother me. I know ACD's get rave reviews for color reproduction and viewing angle. Can they keep up with the 2001FP?

    BTW, thanks miomao for clarifying that the NEC 2080UX+ has the same panel of the Dell 2001FP.
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  • Shalmanese - Thursday, November 13, 2003 - link

    Could you possibly find out just exactly what video cards support 1600x1200 DVI? When I was helping a friend buy a computer, I swear I read somewhere that the 9700 Pro didn't do more than 1280x1024. Reply
  • FirstCitizenLynette - Wednesday, November 12, 2003 - link

    Could you please tell me what a game looks like (Unreal Tournament 2003 or anything) with max AF and AA, and as many details on a possible, on this monitor?

    Very nice review by the way.

    Thanks!
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  • miomao - Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - link

    Not the usual 2080UX but the 2080UX+ "PLUS" use this 16ms panel.

    Surely it have more features but higher price than Dell.

    I've read that Philips will make the 200P4 model.

    I hope AnandTech will make also a LG L1910B review with 19'' S-IPS panel... ;)
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  • ShoNuff - Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - link

    So is the NEC 2080UX out now? What does it retail for?

    Is anybody else using the Philips S-IPS-Panel?
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  • miomao - Tuesday, November 11, 2003 - link

    marcst
    The new NEC 2080UX+ (note the "plus") has the same panel of the Dell 2001FP.
    :)
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  • KristopherKubicki - Monday, November 10, 2003 - link

    Its the same thing. :) So in a way, you have the new champ ;)

    Kristopher
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  • marcst - Monday, November 10, 2003 - link

    Before pronouncing the 2001FP as "new big LCD champion", you should really have a look at the NEC 2080UX, 1600x1200, S-IPS-Panel. Really awesome panel, and not a single annoying dead pixel/subpixel (my panel)! Reply
  • KristopherKubicki - Monday, November 10, 2003 - link

    We tested with a 9800 Pro. Sorry about the mixup.

    Kristopher
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  • miomao - Monday, November 10, 2003 - link

    No CRT is sharp as LCD...
    and for color next years we will have 30bit colors LCDs.

    Remember Sony will stop Trinitron production in 2004!

    The main issue of LCD will remain fixed resolution.
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  • wicktron - Monday, November 10, 2003 - link

    it's improbable for lcd's to ever match the color accuracy and sharpness of a crt. Reply
  • ripdude - Monday, November 10, 2003 - link

    neat article.

    I still find the performance of (any) LCD unrewarding for its price. Until LCD's are on the same quality as CRT's I'm not trading in my 17" CTX :).
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  • Slingman - Monday, November 10, 2003 - link

    Great article Anandtech! I know a lot of us were waiting for a good review of the new LG panel. My only question would be in regards to how it compares to the Samsung 213T? I believe this to be every bit as competitive as the 192T is, especially considering it runs at 1600x1200, just like the 2001 FP does. Granted, it is more expensive, but many of us will use it as a basis of comparison when shopping for a new 20"+ display.

    Before knocking the review for their comment on DVI, one should have their facts in line. All the newer video cards on the market, in particular the newer Radeons and Geforce FX's, support 1600x1200 on the DVI interface. You do not need a pro-level card in order to do this.
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  • mcveigh - Monday, November 10, 2003 - link

    can't remember where I saw it but 9800 series does it I believe Reply
  • Shalmanese - Monday, November 10, 2003 - link

    What video card did you test this with? To the best of my knowledge, consumer grade cards only support 1280x1024 on DVI. You need a fairly expensive pro card if you ever want to use 1600x1200 on DVI which makes it rather flippant to recommend that people can ignore the VGA issues and use DVI instead. Reply
  • Shalmanese - Monday, November 10, 2003 - link

    Couldn't you just put the Cable insulator on the inside of the cable holder so that it doesn't snag? Reply
  • wicktron - Monday, November 10, 2003 - link

    impressive. Reply
  • spynoodle - Thursday, January 24, 2013 - link

    Almost ten years later, I'm still using this monitor, and I think that it's still great. I bought it at a yard sale for $40 around a year ago, and I have not been disappointed. I'm not much of a gamer, so all that really matters to me is accurate color reproduction and good anti-glare, and I think that this monitor still beats many modern LCDs in those areas. Honestly, given my dual-monitor setup with a Samsung 172t, I wouldn't trade it for most new widescreen LCDs. Reply

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