Last year we hinted that another Thunderbolt revision would happen this year, with a speed bump in 2014. It turns out that's exactly what's being announced at NAB this week. Intel took the opportunity to unveil its first 2013 Thunderbolt controllers as well as tease next year's Thunderbolt spec update. As a refresher, Cactus Ridge was the codename of the Thunderbolt controllers that accompanied Ivy Bridge systems. Haswell gets a new set of controllers: Redwood Ridge.

Intel is announcing two this week: the DSL4510 and DSL4410. These two are replacements for Intel's current DSL3510 and DSL3310, with 4/2 and 2/1 (channels/ports) respectively. There are no performance changes other than official support for DisplayPort 1.2 (and thus 4K displays). If you connect either of these parts to a Thunderbolt display you still only get DP 1.1a support. There's still a PCIe gen 2 x4 interface on the other end of these controllers.

The Redwood Ridge parts should be a little cheaper as they integrate a 1V voltage regulator that used to be external. The integration also reduces board area by a bit. Power consumption is also lower at idle compared to Cactus Ridge, and disconnected power consumption is significantly lower (1mW vs. 7mW for Cactus Ridge). Redwood Ridge includes the appropriate hooks for Haswell's upcoming aggressive platform power management reductions. Ultimately this is the real focus behind Redwood Ridge. With Haswell, all components on the platform need to be more power efficient - Intel's own silicon included.

Next year Intel will introduce Falcon Ridge, the first real performance upgrade to Thunderbolt. Intel is only mentioning an increase in performance to 20Gbps, which I can only assume refers to signaling speed per Thunderbolt lane. If that's correct we'd be looking at a doubling in peak theoretical bandwidth over Thunderbolt, perhaps finally making this interface useful for external GPUs. No word on a release timeframe for Falcon Ridge, but my guess is that we'll see it debut around Broadwell (14nm Haswell shrink). Given that Haswell is a late Q2/Q3 launch at best, I'd say end of 2014 is likely for Falcon Ridge.

Dropping power, BOM cost and increase performance in the future are all great, but Thunderbolt adoption on the PC remains embarassing at best. There's a lot of finger pointing between Intel and Microsoft on this, but none of it matters to the end user. Apple continues to be the only platform player that seems to get Thunderbolt and take it seriously. If Intel wants Redwood or Falcon Ridge to matter, it needs to make sure that we actually see real adoption of Thunderbolt in the PC space - with backwards compatibility guaranteed between those devices that have been shipping on the market for a couple of years now.

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  • ATWindsor - Tuesday, April 09, 2013 - link

    Thunderbolt is interesting for me, but mainly becuase of range, imagine having a sentral PC and pushing video and touch/keyboard informaton over a (long) cable, one central HTPC for all displays, touchscreens in the wall for house-controll who communicate with a central server and so on. I feel intel is mainly to blame, one of the biggest pluses of the Tech is long range, optical thunderbolt didn't arrive before long after thunderbolt was released. Reply
  • Hrel - Tuesday, April 09, 2013 - link

    Simply cannot care about thunderbolt until it becomes ubiquitous. Why did floppy beat out zip drives? Cost and availability. Come on Intel, you gotta give up margins on this one or it will never happen. I dream of a world where ALL laptops have docking ports, docking ports so fast we can have external GPU's stored in our home docs. Docking ports so fast we can have home networking servers (in every home) hooked up to the same dock. A world where I can use my 15 year old dock on my brand new laptop. (granted, with less bandwidth). You'd think IBM would have made this abundantly clear by now, cross compatibility is how you BUILD a market. Don't try and be Apple, they will always be niche, be IBM. Reply
  • repoman27 - Tuesday, April 09, 2013 - link

    You kinda lost me with some of your analogies there. When did floppy beat out zip drives? In what market segments is IBM less niche than Apple at the moment? Would that be personal computers, operating systems, web browsers, tablets, smartphones, music or retail? Reply
  • Living Room Rocker - Friday, April 12, 2013 - link

    There seems to be a lot to be desired in understanding the usefulness of TB. At this moment I am using my TB port (on my G55VW laptop) to power and utilizes a(/n external) firewire audio card. (Try finding an affordable, Windows based laptop with firewire nowadays.) I am also anticipating a hub or docking station to connect two displays and multiple USB peripherals (including my firewire device) via TB to my laptop. All that using a single port on a laptop. It's just going to get better from here. Reply

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