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• noblemo - Monday, February 18, 2013 - link

  I would also like to hear feedback from AnandTech. Presumably the primary tradeoff is better memory bandwidth in the 3820 (up to 51.2 GB/s via quad channel memory) versus Haswell's processing improvements. Reply

• tynopik - Monday, February 18, 2013 - link

  no
  
  the difference in memory bandwidth is unnoticeable in the real world Reply

• JarredWalton - Monday, February 18, 2013 - link

  That's not at all true. There can be a noticeable difference in performance thanks to the improved memory bandwidth, but it's usually limited to specific applications that actually hit memory more than most. Server and workstation applications can sometimes benefit, but most consumer applications are fine with dual-channel. I believe Ian even has some stuff that he uses for his other job (scientific research of some form I think) that benefits from quad-channel. Reply

• silenceisgolden - Monday, February 18, 2013 - link

  I was looking at a few graphs on overclock.com that compared the extreme LGA 2011 versions against the 3770K (stock speed) and concluded a noticeable decrease in time for video encode. I've had to encode 30 minute videos before and probably will in the future so I'm very interested in the memory bandwidth argument. If the answer is only that 6 cores is better than 4 cores for that workload then ok, I'll have to see if a thousand dollar processor is worth the added cost - which it might be. But if the added cache and what I believe is better throughput makes a difference, then I'd like to know if there's a better value to be had from a product only $10 more than the 3770. Reply

• Kevin G - Monday, February 18, 2013 - link

  I got my six core Core i7 3930k for $400 from MicroCenter when they were running a sale. If the applications scale from 4 to 6 cores, then the price/performance ratio is swings in favor of the 3930k for the price I paid.
  
  Nothing not mention is that the 3770k has Quick Sync and using an accelerated encoder, it could out run the 3930k even with its extra cores. It is all about picking the best tool for the job and it may not be that clear. Reply

• noblemo - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - link

  Video production is an interesting example because it requires a balanced system where processor, memory, storage, and gpu work together. It is not uncommon to see bottlenecks shift from one component to the other depending on application load. I concede that many hardware configurations have excess memory capacity, but I am not sure how much excess bandwidth is available. Please provide a link with more information regarding practical benefits/constraints of memory bandwidth, especially as it applies to running Adobe Creative Suite products. Reply

• Krysto - Monday, February 18, 2013 - link

  You were really trying to oversell Intel TV to us there, Anand. Good thing Brian was there to push some reality into the discussion.
  
  I don't know why the media is even writing so much about Intel TV. Just because it's Intel and they said they want to enter the market? And...?
  
  I haven't heard anything interesting from Intel that made me think "game-changer" in the TV space. If anything I expect Intel to be LESS disruptive than more disruptive to the cable companies, because they have nothing to offer really, unlike Google and Apple who at least have other content. So my guess is they will get desperate and accept whatever deal the cable companies want.
  
  Also, I don't see people buying their $300+ kit, which is probably what's going to cost, the set top box and the camera. Reply

• kylewat - Tuesday, February 19, 2013 - link

  I drove up and down from Baltimore to NYC this weekend. So people do it. Given I live in the NEC, so maybe it doesn't make sense to you. Driving around New York is far worse than driving in Manhattan for my money.
  
  I often take the train, but being a 3 day weekend, and prices hit 150 for a one way ticket. Anyway I drove, but in my Volvo not my Tesla. Reply

• cj100570 - Monday, March 04, 2013 - link

  Anand, he ya go buddy
  
  Car and Driver https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kCG-WqpVnI
  
  Motor Trend https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DDwwpt-DU4 Reply

• cj100570 - Monday, March 04, 2013 - link

  Oops, here's the Motor Trend review https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUg-BZAR5ro Reply