It's the calm before the storm. The coming weeks are full of big announcements from smartphones to PC components, leaving us to talk about everything we can before the onslaught. We discuss Intel's TV strategy, Microsoft's Surface Pro, the Pebble smartwatch, the removal of unofficial LTE support from the Nexus 4 and Broadcom's LTE baseband. We also set expectations for performance and power consumption on Haswell. Finally, we touch on the recent controversy surrounding range testing Tesla's Model S.

The AnandTech Podcast - Episode 16
featuring Anand Shimpi, Brian Klug & Dr. Ian Cutress

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Total Time: 1 hour 29 minutes

Outline - hh:mm

Microsoft's Surface Pro - 00:00
Setting Haswell Expectations - 00:24
Intel's TV Initiative - 00:31
The Pebble Smartwatch- 00:51
Nexus 4 Removal of LTE - 1:04
Broadcom LTE Baseband - 1:06
Controvery Surrounding Range Testing Tesla's Model S - 1:13

As always, comments are welcome and appreciated. 

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  • variety - Thursday, February 21, 2013 - link

    For the Nexus 4 the colours have been completely hacked. You can change every possible setting to reach a perfect 2.2 image. With an app this worked on stock before, but on 4.2.2 google closed some settings (for whatever stupid reason). The kernel and mod makers have released versions that allow changing of gamma etc... The best current solution is using the faux123 kernel and his settings app... You can find the kernel here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2...

    Here are his two apps to accompany his kernel, one for changing the screen settings and one for everything else (undervolting, overclocking, how many cores etc etc.):

    https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Pa...
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  • Kevin G - Sunday, February 17, 2013 - link

    I'm certain that there is plenty in the pipeline but there is plenty of discuss now. AMD's GPU roadmap snafu, Intel killing off Itanium (and Poulson hasn't gotten any coverage around here at all), rumors of consoles from MS and Sony blocking used games etc.

    While not on the podcast, I'm also kinda surprised that you didn't realized that Ivy Bridge Core i3's only support PCI-e 2.0 officially. Much like Turbo and VT-d, Intel is using PCI-e bandwidth as a distinguishing feature. Similarly not all socket 1155 Ivy Bridge chips support 8x + 4x + 4x lane configurations for connecting three devices to the socket.
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  • Kevin G - Sunday, February 17, 2013 - link

    Oh wow. Drive bandwidth usage of consumers? That it the absolutely last thing major ISP's in the US want. ISP's are currently happy as a government sanctioned monopolies in various markets where they can continually charge more money for less service. They want to suppress bandwidth usage so that they don't have to upgrade their infrastructure. Movement in this area is only done after necessity as they first have to beg their share holders that they actually have to do something to make money instead of exploiting their existing customers.

    Having said that, I live in a suburb of KC and patiently waiting for Google to roll out fiber in my area so I can ditch my cable company. My spite towards my ISP is at the level I'd be willing to pay out of my pocket for several of my neighbors to make the jump as well.

    As for what Intel could get out of making media deals is possibly a move to provide content to x86 smart phones. If Intel can't get their handsets accepted by carriers, why not go the virtual carrier route and carry along the media they already have licensed? Get an Intel phone, sign up for their phone service and get their IPTV service as a bonus. Apple faced such an issue in 2006 before deciding to go with AT&T as a carrier.
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  • Ian Cutress - Monday, February 18, 2013 - link

    I only noticed my i3-3225 was PCIe 2.0 only fairly recently (I queried Anand over twitter), but it still does 8x+4x+4x on the PCIe device side, even with 3xGPUs. Which i3s do not support 8x+4x+4x may I ask?

    It stands to reason that Intel are partitioning more from low to high end. If you want a single high end feature, you have to buy from the top range of SKUs. If you just want it to go, a low end part is good enough. Basic SIs selling to the generic home user won't care as much on PCIe 3.0 or VT-d, but the home builder or niche SI delivering to a market segment would.

    Ian

    PS. I'm green with envy on your proximity to Google Fiber. BT Infinity 3, while the top BT package in London, doesn't even come close. Tweet us your speedtest.net results :)
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  • Kevin G - Monday, February 18, 2013 - link

    It looks like I'll have to correct myself a bit. I was browsing ARK and the mobile i3's don't support the 8x+4x+4x configuration. The desktop models do.

    I'm hope for Google Fiber by the end of the year so it'll be a bit of a wait. The impressive thing is that various SpeedTests are having issues saturating the connection. I also offered Cyrus over at Arstechnica a hardware loan when he visited Homes4Hackers a few months ago. Turns out that you can't run a local server according to Google's ToS. Regardless one of my stress tests will be seeing how many people I can host on a MineCraft server. :)
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  • tynopik - Sunday, February 17, 2013 - link

    There's no sense assuming they can't do that, right


    wrong

    that is the core of the objection, there's just no way they can get enough content to make it compelling

    simply not possible

    then there's no point even discussing the platform, right


    right

    also,

    Please, please, please get a Tesla to test, it would be awesome!
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  • mayankleoboy1 - Sunday, February 17, 2013 - link

    +1 for getting a Tesla based on GK110, and have a Tahiti Vs. GK110 compute shootout. I am sure Asus would be more than willing to lend a card or two for publicity... :D Reply
  • Ian Cutress - Monday, February 18, 2013 - link

    If you have suggestions of Compute benchmarks, please email us and let us know :)

    Ian
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  • silenceisgolden - Monday, February 18, 2013 - link

    Either in a reply or sometime in a future podcast can you all offer your opinion on Ivy Bridge - E vs Haswell? I am looking to upgrade to what would be considered a workhorse build, since I'm running an i7-930 currently. I'm running Adobe products constantly, and when I look on Newegg now, the i7 3820 is $10 more than the i7 3770. Currently it would seem like you would get much more value with the 3820, and since I'm going to continue to need a video card for the foreseeable future I don't see a reason to get on chip graphics. Its a workstation basically, so I'm not really concerned with power. Is there any reason to go Haswell over Ivy Bridge - E except that Haswell might be launching sooner? Reply
  • tynopik - Monday, February 18, 2013 - link

    the answer to this is simple

    there are very few situations where IVY-E makes sense

    1) need more than 4 cores
    2) need more than 32GB
    3) really really rare cases that need more PCI-E bandwidth

    that's it
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