Intel Haswell GT3e GPU Performance Compared to NVIDIA's GeForce GT 650M
by Anand Lal Shimpi on January 9, 2013 4:22 PM EST- Posted in
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- Intel
- Haswell
- Trade Shows
- CES 2013
Haswell isn't expected to launch until the beginning of June in desktops and quad-core notebooks, but Intel is beginning to talk performance. Intel used a mobile customer reference board in a desktop chassis featuring Haswell GT3 with embedded DRAM (the fastest Haswell GPU configuration that Intel will ship) and compared it to an ASUS UX15 with on-board NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M.
Despite the chassis difference, Intel claims it will be able to deliver the same performance from the demo today in an identical UX15 chassis by the time Haswell ships.
The video below shows Dirt 3 running at 1080p on both systems, with identical detail settings (High Quality presets, no AA, vsync off). Intel wouldn't let us report performance numbers, but subjectively the two looked to deliver very similar performance. Note that I confirmed all settings myself and ran both games myself independently of the demo. You can be the judge using the video below:
Intel wouldn't let us confirm clock speeds on Haswell vs. the Core i7 (Ivy Bridge) system, but it claimed that the Haswell part was the immediate successor to its Ivy Bridge comparison point.
As proof of Haswell's ability to fit in a notebook chassis, it did have another demo using older Haswell silicon running Call of Duty: Black Ops 2 in a notebook chassis.
Haswell GT3e's performance looked great for processor graphics. I would assume that overall platform power would be reduced since you wouldn't have a discrete GPU inside, however there's also the question of the cost of the solution. I do expect that NVIDIA will continue to drive discrete GPU performance up, but as a solution for some of the thinner/space constrained form factors (think 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina Display, maybe 11-inch Ultrabook/MacBook Air?) Haswell could be a revolutionary step forward.
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silverblue - Thursday, January 10, 2013 - link
This is the fourth generation Core-based IGP and I think it's fair to say that over the past four years, Intel has certainly come a long way in terms of performance. If they can get their drivers sorted - and it's not as if they lack the resources to do so - then Haswell could be a very solid performer without even taking into account CPU prowess.kyuu - Thursday, January 10, 2013 - link
Uh, we'd like actual numbers, not a demo that is supposed to imply it has comparible performance to a 650m yet there are obviously so many ways in which it could be -- and almost certainly is -- misleading.Regardless, I'm not interested in an Intel graphics solution until their drivers stop being such absolute garbage. Raw power with crap drivers is meaningless.
CeriseCogburn - Friday, January 11, 2013 - link
And thus we get to the AMD problem sideays - crap drivers, that people like you have totally ignored and quite the opposite fanatically endorsed anyway.LOL - total hypocrisy.
Sweet justice !
Intel drivers are better than amd drivers
nicolbolas - Sunday, January 13, 2013 - link
LOLOLLOLOLLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLARE YOU LOOKING AT WHAT YOU ARE TYPING/WRITING??????
PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE, WAKE UP.
i did not consider you anyone who was so biased to one side that they were ignorant of facts. The facts are AMD/ATI drivers have improved dramtically to the point where they are almost up to Nvidia's drivers.....
I don't know if i can even take you seriously any more.
kyuu - Monday, January 14, 2013 - link
Considering I've used an AMD graphics solution in my desktop for years with absolutely zero driver issues, I'm going to have to go ahead and relegate your opinion to the "crap" category.CeriseCogburn - Tuesday, January 15, 2013 - link
You've used a single amd graphics card in a single system, probably a single OS in a single install, and that means you know.You people are insane and stupid.
nicolbolas - Sunday, January 13, 2013 - link
Intel loves to ignore how the HD4000 get weaker with weaker CPU's yet they usually only use the top end i7 to compare it to other GPUs...also their SPD..... that made me go from "meh intel" to "-_- intel, fail"
sockfish - Thursday, January 10, 2013 - link
Just in case no one else has noticed, the screen on the UX51VZ is closed-- which blocks the fan exhaust. Especially with thin+light, the notebook WILL throttle if it overheats, and with the fan exhaust blocked you can bet that the 650M or CPU is going to downclock.Irrelevant though since there is nothing showing frames per second, so the FPS of the video could limit any fluidity anyway.
damianrobertjones - Thursday, January 10, 2013 - link
"think 13-inch MacBook Pro with Retina Display, maybe 11-inch Ultrabook/MacBook Air?" - Why is it that the only two you mention are both Apple products?I was thinking more along the lines of tablets
Brainling - Thursday, January 10, 2013 - link
Because Apple is the leading seller of ultrabooks in the world? Oh, also the leading seller of tablets.You may not like it, but Apple is a huge driver of Intel's business.