Capsule Review: Corsair's Vengeance M60 and M90 Mice
by Dustin Sklavos on February 22, 2012 2:45 PM EST- Posted in
- Mouse
- Peripherals
- Corsair
- Input Devices
Conclusion: A Matter of Taste
Despite my criticisms I'll readily admit the Corsair Vengeance M60 and M90 are two of the better mice I've tested. While I prefer the feel of the body of the M90, the button arrangement of the M60 was more comfortable for me. Either way, these two mice are excellent at what they were fundamentally designed to do: they're fast, responsive, and precise. The benefit of gaming hardware is that oftentimes it's engineered with better precision and quality in mind, making the Vengeance mice a decent option for regular users who have no interest in gaming. The M90, for example, could certainly be very useful for someone who uses heavy duty CAD or video software and needs a lot of shortcuts on the mouse.
The problem you run into is that it's going to be a matter of taste and preference. Peripherals like these can be a very personal thing; while a friend of mine quite liked the Vengeance mice (and indeed preferred the M90), another found the mice to be too large and bulky and preferred to continue using a Microsoft Bluetooth Notebook Mouse 5000 that fit her hand and her grip style better. Personally, I do find them both on the large-ish side and they feel like they were designed for hands bigger than mine. The special buttons never seemed to be in the right place for me the way the side buttons on the Logitech G500 are.
Thankfully, Corsair is getting pretty good market penetration and the prices for the M60 and M90 are reasonable, so it shouldn't be too hard for you to go out and actually see them for yourself in person as opposed to just taking my word for it. Quibbles about button placement (and even surface treatment of the body's plastic) can be very subjective, and what bothers me could very likely not bother you—or you might even like something I dislike.
That said, the software side of things still needs work. The interface honestly needs to be cleaned up a lot and made more intuitive, and just bout everything I brought up in the Vengeance keyboard review is applicable here. The DPI configuration screen is excellent, but the button assignment and macro programming remains baffling. I think Corsair erred on people being more apt to use the software to program macros than basic functions, but why shouldn't it be designed to cater to both?
When all is said and done, though, the software is the easiest thing to fix. If the hardware wasn't there the mice would be a lost cause, but for the most part the hardware is fine. I have personal issues with the layouts of the mice, but you may not share my complaints. If the M60 or M90 feel good in your hand, they're probably going to be right for you.
Facebook
Twitter
RSS
40 Comments
View All Comments
Azethoth - Wednesday, February 22, 2012 - link
Oh yeah, and full disclaimer: I use RAT 7 MMO mouse + Vengeance K90 keyboard. They are no longer for actual MMO use though, I use the extra buttons for programming.Watwatwat - Thursday, February 23, 2012 - link
I find the best solution is logitechs g9/g9x with the auto profile switching sofwareThe mouse only has a few buttons, but the software makes the most of it, you do have to associate each profile with the executable, but most nerds probably can handle that. The main thing for thumb buttons is reachability in games, it has to be right there, not a reach or it becomes useless for quick access. There are also more buttons than you expect once you find out you can bind the wheel tilt to whatever you like as well, some wheels don't have feedback on tilt or are loose, the g9 series have a subtle click so its still useful in games.
The r.a.t. looked interesting, but the main thing other mice lack is the speed scrolling wheel of the logitech...hard to go back to other mice once spoiled. I have several wireless but yes like the revolution they aren't as smooth, the performance mx is the best of the lot but its clearly not for gaming, the thumb buttons are a big reach away as they jut out over your thumb...
Shinobi_III - Thursday, February 23, 2012 - link
Oh look! It's an Logitech G9!realjetavenger - Thursday, February 23, 2012 - link
"There's also the placement of the "Sniper" button. On the M60, for my hands and the way I grip the mouse, it's just too far up the left side. The button needed to be lower to be under where my thumb usually rests."Totally agree. Have been using the M60 or a few weeks now. Generally really like the performance of the mouse and the size fits my hand well. But find that the placement of the sniper button is just a litle too far forward. And as stated in the article it should be placed to fall under the thumb instead of having to move your thumb forward to use it. For me to hit it correctly, I have to cock my hand sideways a little to get my thumb forward enough to hold the button. This is self defeating as it now makes it more difficult to be precise with the mouse movement which is the whole point of the sniper button in the first place.
Whiskey Mike - Thursday, February 23, 2012 - link
I use, and am happy with, a Razer Naga (Molten). Lots of buttons (16 at quick count) some well placed, some not so much. I only use the ones that feel natural / are well-positioned. If macroing, you could use more. Decent software for mapping the mouse keys. I use it with a couple of different MMO's/games. I also use the Razer eXactMat, which is metal, two sided (control/speed), helps a lot. Downside is I have to clean the sensor window once a day, a blow off. I would buy it again were this one to fail.Keyboard used is the Zboard Merc Stealth now sold by Steelseries. KB feel is okay, used it daily for maybe 4 (?) years now. The main attractions are the backlit keys (variable intensity and 3 colors) and the dedicated gaming-oriented integrated pad located to the left of the main keyboard which adds roughly 30 keys, very nicely arranged so that the left hand can easily span all of the keys; natural, quick, well placed for me. All are programmable, and are amenable to function shifts. I like this keyboard. I use two, and have bought a spare. KB downside is it is big, really big. Another downside is the right keypad area is poorly laid out.
Sulik2 - Thursday, February 23, 2012 - link
I rest my thumb at the bottom of the mouse on the left and I have never found a mouse puts the buttons at the bottom. I always have to raise my thumb which never feels natural. Are there any gaming mice that put the thumb buttons at the bottom of the left side of the mouse?kevith - Thursday, February 23, 2012 - link
I think grip-wise you can divide mice in two categories. Palm-grip mice, designed for resting your whole hand on the mouse, and claw-grip mice, where you rotate the mouse inside your palm with only the fingertips resting on the surface of the mouse.Mobile mice almost always fall in the latter category, given the need for small size. That´s my preference in mice, since my hands are wide with short fingers.
Would it be possible to divide reviewed mice into one of these categories from the start?
As a lot of the comments here, quite truly, state, that it´s almost impossible to know if a mouse is the right one for you, without actually holding it in your hand. But a division of particular mice like that might give a slightly better hint.
jadawgis732 - Thursday, February 23, 2012 - link
I'm surprised to see this statement on Anandtech: "For basic browsing and productivity tasks, there's still really no substitute for a wired mouse." I thought it was proven not to make a discernible difference. I always defer to AT's general knowledge of all things tech, but in this case I think you may be disseminating false information.Sufo - Sunday, February 26, 2012 - link
I was a longtime g5 user - imo it was the pinnacle of understated yet powerful gaming mice. Sadly it started to die on me and it's basically impossible to replace them these days. The g500 was not an option as I don't want a free wheel, or a wheel capable of free wheeling (the click, when enabled, is not nice).I thought nothing would be able to replace my g5 but in the end i settled on the m60 and I must say it's great. Build quality is excellent. The pads are even smoother than my g5, and the weight of the mouse (at its maximum) is adequate. m1/2 press is lighter than the g5, but crisp and distinct (maybe not appropriate for those that rest heavily on the mouse). The wheel click is muted but solid. I was unsure of it at first but i've come to enjoy it. I do not use the sniper button - as mentioned in this article it's poorly placed, and its benefits aren't all that useful to me at this stage anyway (if i could reassign it i might use it, but sadly this is impossible). the thumb buttons are ok - a bit springy tho, and they could have taken a leaf out of logitech's book in terms of positioning. I find it to be the right size, and the fact that the back falls away a bit results in plenty of room for me to pivot from the table.
Overall I'm happy with my purchase.
Vril - Sunday, March 11, 2012 - link
the problem with these is that they use a 2009 laser: Avago ADNS 9500it`s like using an older engine on a new car...