Medium Detail Gaming Comparison

We’re going to focus on the main gaming target for this level of hardware: our Medium presets. The Low preset tends to look pretty lousy in several of the games (StarCraft II being the worst), while our High settings are too much for the GT 540M/HD 6630M in about half of the titles, even at 1366x768. Medium detail on the other hand should give us 30+ FPS in nearly all of the games we’re testing while still providing decent visuals. Here are the results.

Battlefield: Bad Company 2

Civilization V

DiRT 2

Left 4 Dead 2

Mafia II

Mass Effect 2

Metro 2033

STALKER: Call of Pripyat

StarCraft II: Wings of Liberty

Total War: Shogun 2

In terms of performance, the 6630M matches up nicely against the GT 540M. It wins a few games by a small margin, loses a few by a similarly small margin, and ties in the remainder. If we were just looking at gaming performance, there’s not much to discuss here. NVIDIA still has CUDA and PhysX, and AMD has their Accelerated Parallel Processing SDK, but given the level of performance we’re talking about, you won’t need or use these extras most of the time. Unfortunately for AMD, it’s not just about gaming performance.

We tested ten games (though we don’t have results from the Alienware M11x R3 in Civilization V and Total War: Shogun 2), and the newest titles are Civ5 (13 months old) and TWS2 (6 months old). You’d hope that with relatively known games, compatibility wouldn’t be an issue, but we ran into two problems during testing.

The first wasn’t a consistent problem, but we did have a couple of crash to desktop issues when benchmarking DiRT 2 using Dynamic Switchable Graphics mode. The other issue was a lot worse, and it was in StarCraft II when running at anything more than the Low default settings. As noted earlier, SC2 looks pretty lousy at its minimum settings, and Medium detail (and possibly even High) should be more than playable on the HD 6630M. In dynamic mode, however, not only was performance quite a bit lower than expected at our Low settings, but at Medium and above there were tons of missing textures. The solution is to switch to manually controlled switching, which solved both the performance and rendering errors, but then why even have dynamic switching in the first place?

While we’re on the subject, let’s also take a look at a few other comparisons. Running “stock” on the CPU, the Acer 3830TG is slightly slower overall than when using ThrottleStop to limit the CPU to 2.1GHz. With ThrottleStop, the average score across ten games improves by 20%, so the CPU throttling has a major impact in games. Civ5, ME2, and TWS2 show the least difference, with Mass Effect 2 being the only game that ran slightly faster at the stock CPU settings; Mafia 2 runs 10% faster, Metro 2033 and STALKRE are 13% faster, L4D2 jumps up 28%, DiRT2 is 49% faster, and the ever-CPU-limited StarCraft II runs 58% faster. Interesting to point out is that 2.1GHz is 75% higher than 1.2GHz, so on average it looks like the 3830TG runs around 1.3GHz in StarCraft II.

Flipping over to the other GT 540M equipped laptops and using the best result from the Acer 3830TG, the Alienware M11x R3 averages out to 3.5% faster, but it only has a clear lead in two games (DiRT2 and SC2) while it’s slightly slower in L4D2 and Mafia2. The Dell XPS 15 comes in 9% faster than the 3830TG on average, with the biggest lead again coming from SC2; Mafia2 once again gives the 3830TG a lead, so the latest NVIDIA drivers appear to be playing a role.

Finally, since we now have results from the HD 6630M with a Llano A8-3500M as well as the i5-2410M, we thought it would be interesting to see just how much performance you give up by gaming with the slower Llano CPU. If you’ll recall, in our first look at a Llano notebook, we expressed concern that the CPU would hold back GPU performance. Out of our ten tested titles, only Mass Effect 2 ran faster on Llano with a dGPU. Most games (at Medium settings where the GPU becomes more of a bottleneck) are close: BFBC2 and Civ5 are exactly the same performance, Mafia 2 is 2% faster with the Intel CPU, and Dirt2, L4D2, Metro, and STALKER are all within 5-10%. Not surprisingly, StarCraft II is the big outlier, running over twice as fast on the Intel i5-2410M. We’re still not looking at similar driver builds, as the Llano laptop is running a Catalyst 11.6 derivative (8.862.110607a-120249E) compared to 11.1 on the Sony, but even so the average performance increase with an Intel CPU comes in at 12% (mostly thanks to SC2).

Since there were two games where we didn’t have a perfect experience, we decided to look at some more recent titles.

How AMD’s Dynamic Switchable Graphics Works What about Recent Games?
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  • just4U - Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - link

    It's been a looong day.. I need a good chuckle.. thanks!
  • inplainview - Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - link

    Are you serial stupid? I said above that I do not play games. Are you reading challenged?
  • ggathagan - Wednesday, September 21, 2011 - link

    Thanks,
    I was wondering what you ended up buying.
    What're you having for dinner tonight?
    Mom was worried, too. You might want to call her.
  • sonofsanta - Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - link

    I, er, I think the phrase you're looking for is "cry foul", not "fowl". Wouldn't make much sense if people started running round shouting "Pheasant!" because nVidia sent you both laptops...
  • MysteriousAndy - Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - link

    ++

    http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/british...
  • swx2 - Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - link

    relevant:
    http://www.vgcats.com/comics/?strip_id=119
  • JarredWalton - Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - link

    It's simply a typo (or misspelling if you prefer); I'm fully aware that we "cry foul" and not "fowl".
  • beginner99 - Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - link

    ... makes absolutely no sense.

    "we thought it would be interesting to see just how much performance you give up by gaming with the slower Llano CPU. Ready for some fun? You actually gain 5% performance with the A8-3500M + 6630M compared to the VAIO CA. ...Can you feel my frustration (with Sony) yet?"

    The Charts show the i5 being better in every single benchmark especially starcraft 2, 29 vs 62 fps and you claim i5 has a 9% lead? Sorry but in my math its over 100% faster.

    Again that last paragraph makes 0 sense and contradicts the data.
  • JarredWalton - Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - link

    Crap... I had the wrong numbers in my spreadsheet. Will update the text, because I was totally flabbergasted by the percentages. Turns out I had numbers from a different laptop listed (but the charts are correct). Thanks for pointing this out!
  • Althernai - Tuesday, September 20, 2011 - link

    Meanwhile, the 6700M, 6800M, and 6900M could all benefit from dynamic switching (assuming the bugs and other issues are worked out), but no one is doing it.


    Actually, HP's dv6t and dv7t have the 6770M with switchable graphics. It was badly broken upon release (dynamic only = OpenGL only on Intel), but HP has since released a BIOS update which allows you to select between Dynamic and Fixed in the BIOS (not in Windows like the Sony, but at least it's possible now).

    How have laptops with AMD switchable graphics fared in terms of driver updates over time?

    Updating drivers on the HP dv6t is not so bad: you need to install AMD's drivers on top of what HP provides, but it seems to work OK as long as you leave out the control center. AMD releases two sets of drivers: the normal type which comes with all kinds of restrictions and the "hotfix" type which can be installed on practically anything (including even FirePro GPUs). You can always get the latter for the current month if there is a problem with downloading the driver.

    Does AMD’s switchable technology work any better under Linux that NVIDIA’s Optimus?[/quote
    Linux support is terrible: unlike Optimus where it usually at least has the decency to use the Intel GPU with the Nvidia one turned off, with dv6t, the discreet GPU is running (I can tell by the thermal behavior), but no drivers for it can be installed and there appears to be no way to use it. It's partially my own fault for using Scientific Linux (it's the latest 6.1 release, but the kernel is still rather old). I will try with Fedora 16 once it comes out, but my only goal is to get the Radeon card to turn off and be able to control the brightness -- actually switching between GPUs is highly unlikely.

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